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From Hernan Cunico <hcun...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Geronimo in year 2008
Date Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:47:05 GMT
Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
> 
> On Feb 11, 2008 10:12 PM, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com 
> <mailto:david_jencks@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>>     On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com
>>     <mailto:david_jencks@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         3a is implemented in 2.1
>>
>>     Is there an admin console page for this already implemented?
> 
>     yes, the bottom of the plugin page.  Also there's a gshell command
>     for it
> 
> 
> "Assemble a server" option looks too hidden under other features :( . A 
> portlet on it's own would have better grabbed the attention of users 
> towards it. We must at least highlight it now in our documentation.

I think both. This feature is important enough to be on its own, probably under 'Server' and
we definitively need to document in deep how it works. That includes explaining the plugin
architecture as well.

Cheers!
Hernan

>  
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Shiva
> 
> 
>     david jencks
> 
>>
>>      
>>
>>
>>         Despite my liking for xmlbeans and its unique strengths I
>>         think a very strong argument can be made for moving the
>>         deployer code to jaxb.
>>
>>     Interesting!! Let me do some quick learning of jaxb and start a
>>     separate thread on this.
>>      
>>
>>
>>         thanks
>>         david jencks
>>
>>         On Feb 8, 2008, at 12:30 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
>>
>>>         I can immediately remember 3 prior discussions in reference
>>>         to this:
>>>             i) "[DISCUSS/FEEDBACK] Usability improvements to
>>>         Geronimo" mail from Prasad in Nov'07
>>>         http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg53236.html
>>>             ii) "[Discuss] What next?" mail from DJencks in Aug'07
>>>         http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg50660.html
>>>             iii) "[DISCUSS] Geronimo 2.1 - what's next?" mail from
>>>         Matt in Jul'07
>>>         http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg48173.html
>>>
>>>         Alright, here is my wish list - features that I would love to
>>>         see getting into Geronimo in 2008:
>>>         1) Deployment Environment:
>>>             a) Plan Creator wizards (in Admin Console & in Geronimo
>>>         Eclipse Plugin) for geronimo-application.xml and *many* other
>>>         Geronimo deployment plans.
>>>             b) Geronimo specific annotations: To further simplify the
>>>         specification of Geronimo deployment information, right at
>>>         development time.
>>>
>>>         2) Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP):
>>>             a) Model framework for Geronimo deployment plans:
>>>         Currently it is EMF (Eclipse Modeling Framework). With every
>>>         update to Geronimo deployment schema, it's a major pain to
>>>         generate new EMF classes. If however, GEP uses the same model
>>>         framework as that of Geronimo server (XMLBeans), then at
>>>         least this problem would be solved. IIUC JSR-88 DConfigBeans
>>>         would be the ideal model framework for GEP - in that case
>>>         even if the model framework of server changes in future, GEP
>>>         would be unaffected.
>>>             b) Critical bug fixes
>>>             c) Make "Download and Install" option more intuitive
>>>             d) Customize Web Services Wizard:
>>>         The default implementation of WTP's web services wizard
>>>         embeds an Axis engine inside a web-app and then deploys it in
>>>         a web server such as Tomcat. However this isn't the right
>>>         approach for Geronimo as it already has a global web services
>>>         engine deployed. Hence web services wizard's behavior must be
>>>         customized when deploying onto Geronimo.
>>>             e) Better Remote server support
>>>             f) Testsuite Automation
>>>             g) Integrating JavaEE Samples.
>>>
>>>         3) Admin Console Tools:
>>>             a) Server Build Tool: For instance, a "button" to push
>>>         that spits out a server with just what is needed for a set of
>>>         apps and nothing else.
>>>         http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg54849.html
>>>             b) Cluster Admin Tools: Geronimo has a lot of partial
>>>         clustering solutions. For instance there's WADI, native
>>>         tomcat clustering, a terracotta integration, and many others.
>>>         A cluster admin tool would be of great help in the setting-up
>>>         and fine-tuning of those clustering solutions.
>>>
>>>         I am stuck in 1) a) Plan Creator work for the past year or so
>>>         and it is still not complete! So if I alone work on many of
>>>         those features, God alone knows when I will complete them.
>>>         Any takers/collaborators?
>>>
>>>         On Feb 7, 2008 8:28 PM, Vamsavardhana Reddy
>>>         <c1vamsi1c@gmail.com <mailto:c1vamsi1c@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hello,
>>>
>>>             Geronimo had a great year 2007.  I don't need to re-list
>>>             all our achievements listed in Matt's mail from 31st Dec
>>>             2007
>>>             (http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg54994.html).

>>>             Now that 2.1 is also rolling out, I think it is time we
>>>             start discussing what we want to do in Geronimo in year
>>>             2008.  Let us also discuss what we "must" do to make
>>>             Geronimo an application server of choice.  I would like
>>>             all of us to use this mail thread to put forth our
>>>             thoughts (and any action items some of us may have
>>>             already come up with silently) so that the community can
>>>             see what great heights Geronimo will scale in 2008.
>>>
>>>             Thank you.
>>>
>>>             ++Vamsi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Thanks,
>>>         Shiva
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Thanks,
>>     Shiva
> 
> 

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