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From Donald Woods <dwo...@apache.org>
Subject [Fwd: Re: Geronimo in year 2008]
Date Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:32:55 GMT
In-line below.


Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
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> 
> On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com 
> <mailto:david_jencks@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
>     3a is implemented in 2.1
> 
> Is there an admin console page for this already implemented?
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> 
> 
>     Despite my liking for xmlbeans and its unique strengths I think a
>     very strong argument can be made for moving the deployer code to jaxb.
> 
> Interesting!! Let me do some quick learning of jaxb and start a separate 
> thread on this.

We need to discuss introducing more dependencies on JAXB as a group
first, as this just ties more of our server code with Sun RI, which has
no alternative implementation right now (and could be licensed from Sun
as GPL in future releases....)

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> 
> 
>     thanks
>     david jencks
> 
>     On Feb 8, 2008, at 12:30 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
> 
>>     I can immediately remember 3 prior discussions in reference to this:
>>         i) "[DISCUSS/FEEDBACK] Usability improvements to Geronimo"
>>     mail from Prasad in Nov'07
>>     http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg53236.html
>>         ii) "[Discuss] What next?" mail from DJencks in Aug'07
>>     http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg50660.html
>>         iii) "[DISCUSS] Geronimo 2.1 - what's next?" mail from Matt in
>>     Jul'07
>>     http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg48173.html
>>
>>     Alright, here is my wish list - features that I would love to see
>>     getting into Geronimo in 2008:
>>     1) Deployment Environment:
>>         a) Plan Creator wizards (in Admin Console & in Geronimo
>>     Eclipse Plugin) for geronimo-application.xml and *many* other
>>     Geronimo deployment plans.
>>         b) Geronimo specific annotations: To further simplify the
>>     specification of Geronimo deployment information, right at
>>     development time.
>>
>>     2) Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP):
>>         a) Model framework for Geronimo deployment plans:
>>     Currently it is EMF (Eclipse Modeling Framework). With every
>>     update to Geronimo deployment schema, it's a major pain to
>>     generate new EMF classes. If however, GEP uses the same model
>>     framework as that of Geronimo server (XMLBeans), then at least
>>     this problem would be solved. IIUC JSR-88 DConfigBeans would be
>>     the ideal model framework for GEP - in that case even if the model
>>     framework of server changes in future, GEP would be unaffected.
>>         b) Critical bug fixes
>>         c) Make "Download and Install" option more intuitive
>>         d) Customize Web Services Wizard:
>>     The default implementation of WTP's web services wizard embeds an
>>     Axis engine inside a web-app and then deploys it in a web server
>>     such as Tomcat. However this isn't the right approach for Geronimo
>>     as it already has a global web services engine deployed. Hence web
>>     services wizard's behavior must be customized when deploying onto
>>     Geronimo.
>>         e) Better Remote server support
>>         f) Testsuite Automation
>>         g) Integrating JavaEE Samples.
>>
>>     3) Admin Console Tools:
>>         a) Server Build Tool: For instance, a "button" to push that
>>     spits out a server with just what is needed for a set of apps and
>>     nothing else.
>>     http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg54849.html
>>         b) Cluster Admin Tools: Geronimo has a lot of partial
>>     clustering solutions. For instance there's WADI, native tomcat
>>     clustering, a terracotta integration, and many others. A cluster
>>     admin tool would be of great help in the setting-up and
>>     fine-tuning of those clustering solutions.
>>
>>     I am stuck in 1) a) Plan Creator work for the past year or so and
>>     it is still not complete! So if I alone work on many of those
>>     features, God alone knows when I will complete them. Any
>>     takers/collaborators?
>>
>>     On Feb 7, 2008 8:28 PM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1vamsi1c@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:c1vamsi1c@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hello,
>>
>>         Geronimo had a great year 2007.  I don't need to re-list all
>>         our achievements listed in Matt's mail from 31st Dec 2007
>>         (http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg54994.html). 
>>         Now that 2.1 is also rolling out, I think it is time we start
>>         discussing what we want to do in Geronimo in year 2008.  Let
>>         us also discuss what we "must" do to make Geronimo an
>>         application server of choice.  I would like all of us to use
>>         this mail thread to put forth our thoughts (and any action
>>         items some of us may have already come up with silently) so
>>         that the community can see what great heights Geronimo will
>>         scale in 2008.
>>
>>         Thank you.
>>
>>         ++Vamsi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Thanks,
>>     Shiva
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> -- 
> Thanks,
> Shiva

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