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From Donald Woods <>
Subject Re: Geronimo in year 2008
Date Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:43:44 GMT
Agree with 1a, all of #2 and 3b.

- Creating documentation when new features go into svn instead as an 
after thought when we are trying to close out a release.

- Samples become a prerequisite of each new release.

- Project mentoring - have several of us pick another open source 
project to either enable them to run on Geronimo out-of-the-box or 
create a plugin out of their application (much like has been done for 
Liferay and Roller.)  This could be the start of a "Ready for Geronimo" 
page on our website, where we list known apps and frameworks (like 
Spring and Hibernate) that can be readily used with Geronimo, with a 
page on each in our docs on installation/setup and known working 
versions for a given Geronimo release.

- Full support for running on Java SE 6

- Portlet for controlling logging levels at a component/package level

- Continued work on enable full clustering of all components

- Start providing previews of upcoming Java EE 6 technologies


Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
> I can immediately remember 3 prior discussions in reference to this:
>     i) "[DISCUSS/FEEDBACK] Usability improvements to Geronimo" mail from 
> Prasad in Nov'07 
>     ii) "[Discuss] What next?" mail from DJencks in Aug'07 
>     iii) "[DISCUSS] Geronimo 2.1 - what's next?" mail from Matt in 
> Jul'07
> Alright, here is my wish list - features that I would love to see 
> getting into Geronimo in 2008:
> 1) Deployment Environment:
>     a) Plan Creator wizards (in Admin Console & in Geronimo Eclipse 
> Plugin) for geronimo-application.xml and *many* other Geronimo 
> deployment plans.
>     b) Geronimo specific annotations: To further simplify the 
> specification of Geronimo deployment information, right at development time.
> 2) Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP):
>     a) Model framework for Geronimo deployment plans:
> Currently it is EMF (Eclipse Modeling Framework). With every update to 
> Geronimo deployment schema, it's a major pain to generate new EMF 
> classes. If however, GEP uses the same model framework as that of 
> Geronimo server (XMLBeans), then at least this problem would be solved. 
> IIUC JSR-88 DConfigBeans would be the ideal model framework for GEP - in 
> that case even if the model framework of server changes in future, GEP 
> would be unaffected.
>     b) Critical bug fixes
>     c) Make "Download and Install" option more intuitive
>     d) Customize Web Services Wizard:
> The default implementation of WTP's web services wizard embeds an Axis 
> engine inside a web-app and then deploys it in a web server such as 
> Tomcat. However this isn't the right approach for Geronimo as it already 
> has a global web services engine deployed. Hence web services wizard's 
> behavior must be customized when deploying onto Geronimo.
>     e) Better Remote server support
>     f) Testsuite Automation
>     g) Integrating JavaEE Samples.
> 3) Admin Console Tools:
>     a) Server Build Tool: For instance, a "button" to push that spits 
> out a server with just what is needed for a set of apps and nothing 
> else.
>     b) Cluster Admin Tools: Geronimo has a lot of partial clustering 
> solutions. For instance there's WADI, native tomcat clustering, a 
> terracotta integration, and many others. A cluster admin tool would be 
> of great help in the setting-up and fine-tuning of those clustering 
> solutions.
> I am stuck in 1) a) Plan Creator work for the past year or so and it is 
> still not complete! So if I alone work on many of those features, God 
> alone knows when I will complete them. Any takers/collaborators?
> On Feb 7, 2008 8:28 PM, Vamsavardhana Reddy < 
> <>> wrote:
>     Hello,
>     Geronimo had a great year 2007.  I don't need to re-list all our
>     achievements listed in Matt's mail from 31st Dec 2007
>     ( 
>     Now that 2.1 is also rolling out, I think it is time we start
>     discussing what we want to do in Geronimo in year 2008.  Let us also
>     discuss what we "must" do to make Geronimo an application server of
>     choice.  I would like all of us to use this mail thread to put forth
>     our thoughts (and any action items some of us may have already come
>     up with silently) so that the community can see what great heights
>     Geronimo will scale in 2008.
>     Thank you.
>     ++Vamsi
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Shiva

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