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From David Jencks <david_jen...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: Geronimo in year 2008
Date Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:42:42 GMT

On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:

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> On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks <david_jencks@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 3a is implemented in 2.1
> Is there an admin console page for this already implemented?

yes, the bottom of the plugin page.  Also there's a gshell command  
for it

david jencks
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> Despite my liking for xmlbeans and its unique strengths I think a  
> very strong argument can be made for moving the deployer code to jaxb.
> Interesting!! Let me do some quick learning of jaxb and start a  
> separate thread on this.
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> thanks
> david jencks
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> On Feb 8, 2008, at 12:30 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
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>> I can immediately remember 3 prior discussions in reference to this:
>>     i) "[DISCUSS/FEEDBACK] Usability improvements to Geronimo"  
>> mail from Prasad in Nov'07 http://www.mail-archive.com/ 
>> dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg53236.html
>>     ii) "[Discuss] What next?" mail from DJencks in Aug'07 http:// 
>> www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg50660.html
>>     iii) "[DISCUSS] Geronimo 2.1 - what's next?" mail from Matt in  
>> Jul'07 http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/ 
>> msg48173.html
>>
>> Alright, here is my wish list - features that I would love to see  
>> getting into Geronimo in 2008:
>> 1) Deployment Environment:
>>     a) Plan Creator wizards (in Admin Console & in Geronimo  
>> Eclipse Plugin) for geronimo-application.xml and *many* other  
>> Geronimo deployment plans.
>>     b) Geronimo specific annotations: To further simplify the  
>> specification of Geronimo deployment information, right at  
>> development time.
>>
>> 2) Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP):
>>     a) Model framework for Geronimo deployment plans:
>> Currently it is EMF (Eclipse Modeling Framework). With every  
>> update to Geronimo deployment schema, it's a major pain to  
>> generate new EMF classes. If however, GEP uses the same model  
>> framework as that of Geronimo server (XMLBeans), then at least  
>> this problem would be solved. IIUC JSR-88 DConfigBeans would be  
>> the ideal model framework for GEP - in that case even if the model  
>> framework of server changes in future, GEP would be unaffected.
>>     b) Critical bug fixes
>>     c) Make "Download and Install" option more intuitive
>>     d) Customize Web Services Wizard:
>> The default implementation of WTP's web services wizard embeds an  
>> Axis engine inside a web-app and then deploys it in a web server  
>> such as Tomcat. However this isn't the right approach for Geronimo  
>> as it already has a global web services engine deployed. Hence web  
>> services wizard's behavior must be customized when deploying onto  
>> Geronimo.
>>     e) Better Remote server support
>>     f) Testsuite Automation
>>     g) Integrating JavaEE Samples.
>>
>> 3) Admin Console Tools:
>>     a) Server Build Tool: For instance, a "button" to push that  
>> spits out a server with just what is needed for a set of apps and  
>> nothing else. http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/ 
>> msg54849.html
>>     b) Cluster Admin Tools: Geronimo has a lot of partial  
>> clustering solutions. For instance there's WADI, native tomcat  
>> clustering, a terracotta integration, and many others. A cluster  
>> admin tool would be of great help in the setting-up and fine- 
>> tuning of those clustering solutions.
>>
>> I am stuck in 1) a) Plan Creator work for the past year or so and  
>> it is still not complete! So if I alone work on many of those  
>> features, God alone knows when I will complete them. Any takers/ 
>> collaborators?
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2008 8:28 PM, Vamsavardhana Reddy <c1vamsi1c@gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Geronimo had a great year 2007.  I don't need to re-list all our  
>> achievements listed in Matt's mail from 31st Dec 2007 (http:// 
>> www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg54994.html).  Now  
>> that 2.1 is also rolling out, I think it is time we start  
>> discussing what we want to do in Geronimo in year 2008.  Let us  
>> also discuss what we "must" do to make Geronimo an application  
>> server of choice.  I would like all of us to use this mail thread  
>> to put forth our thoughts (and any action items some of us may  
>> have already come up with silently) so that the community can see  
>> what great heights Geronimo will scale in 2008.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> ++Vamsi
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>> -- 
>> Thanks,
>> Shiva
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> -- 
> Thanks,
> Shiva


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