Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 40640 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2007 03:35:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Dec 2007 03:35:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 5623 invoked by uid 500); 7 Dec 2007 03:35:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 5574 invoked by uid 500); 7 Dec 2007 03:35:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 5563 invoked by uid 99); 7 Dec 2007 03:35:31 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:35:31 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of kevan.miller@gmail.com designates 64.233.184.234 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.184.234] (HELO wr-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.184.234) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:35:10 +0000 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so401427wra for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:35:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=SrE33W9wbEiTJqkmxsIsmMIij0K5mkpIJ+7wvwA9cIw=; b=qarHlAl3p3qhPnm6W0fAFToRza1Uwu9Nt0pI4Mnk8VLUNiqcW25e0+16yFGvwnoqlLCZ5oqBKHTgZ24I942AV2Dc2hcCBqPzTMM4FvF07DIAJvU+RYGGm/sd5dEZAlj4Pd0rfTXpCngfb+j8tRjPW+42WsYVQEn0Gj0jHGoJelg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=eSj3ygLupmMg3VlUQMJ6CUa+/tsTi114141N82QKn4EM4VUMqK6SIPkTdmq/CqgpkG8dOlY6ywiykUf8BXaHKx2PNwMmtIIyilg7H34aDJZ9b83Rquck7Awlly3f9b90ski8EhgqHe6dvbwXc7IboQsN7k3MpHjgX+mop2LjtHw= Received: by 10.70.92.12 with SMTP id p12mr434650wxb.1196998509365; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.200? ( [76.182.118.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i11sm252835wxd.2007.12.06.19.35.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:35:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Kevan Miller To: dev@geronimo.apache.org In-Reply-To: <4758AFFD.40703@apache.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-29--352027582 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Monitoring Client may need a new graphing engine Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:35:04 -0500 References: <4758AFFD.40703@apache.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-29--352027582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Dec 6, 2007, at 9:29 PM, Erik B. Craig wrote: > All, > > Currently the monitoring client is using Dojo 0.4.3 charting, which > does not necessarily behave as expected on Firefox/Safari on a mac, > or on IE6 on Windows. > I consider this to be a shortcoming, and given the new version of > Dojo available (1.0.1), began investigating migrating the monitoring > client over to the new version of Dojo, only to find that the new > version of dojo appears to be a significant rewrite of the old code > base, leaving out some features that I consider to be very visually > pleasing and important for statistics viewing. While rummaging > through the Dojo forums, I stumbled upon another Javascript graphing > framework called Timeplot, which is part of the SIMILE project at > MIT, and while this has it's own set of limitations... I'm trying to > figure out the lesser of three evils before it comes a time that > this monitoring plugin will be released, so that I have enough time > (read: 3-5 days) to migrate the javascript generation over to > something new if necessary. > > I have created a small demonstration page that shows all three > options graphed with the same data series, as well as weighing some > of the advantages/disadvantages I could come up with, > Please have a look, and let me know your thoughts. > > http://people.apache.org/~ecraig/graphdemo/ > > Personally, I think it would be really cool if we could use the > Timeplot graphing libraries, as it is all BSD licensed and therefore > friendly I believe (right, Kevan?)... and also EXTREMELY cool for > showing multiple data series in one chart. I'll take a look at the license info for Timeplot. However, if Timeplot doesn't work in IE, that's a severe disadvantage. Can you explain what doesn't work? --kevan --Apple-Mail-29--352027582 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Dec 6, 2007, = at 9:29 PM, Erik B. Craig wrote:

All,

Currently the monitoring client is using Dojo = 0.4.3 charting, which does not necessarily behave as expected on = Firefox/Safari on a mac, or on IE6 on Windows.
I consider this to be = a shortcoming, and given the new version of Dojo available (1.0.1), = began investigating migrating the monitoring client over to the new = version of Dojo, only to find that the new version of dojo appears to be = a significant rewrite of the old code base, leaving out some features = that I consider to be very visually pleasing and important for = statistics viewing. While rummaging through the Dojo forums, I stumbled = upon another Javascript graphing framework called Timeplot, which is = part of the SIMILE project at MIT, and while this has it's own set of = limitations... I'm trying to figure out the lesser of three evils before = it comes a time that this monitoring plugin will be released, so that I = have enough time (read: 3-5 days) to migrate the javascript generation = over to something new if necessary.

I have created a small = demonstration page that shows all three options graphed with the same = data series, as well as weighing some of the advantages/disadvantages I = could come up with,
Please have a look, and let me know your = thoughts.

http://people.apache.= org/~ecraig/graphdemo/

Personally, I think it would be really = cool if we could use the Timeplot graphing libraries, as it is all BSD = licensed and therefore friendly I believe (right, Kevan?)... and also = EXTREMELY cool for showing multiple data series in one = chart.

I'll take a look at the license = info for Timeplot.

However, if Timeplot = doesn't work in IE, that's a severe disadvantage. Can you explain what = doesn't work?

--kevan
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