Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 46323 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 09:02:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 13 Nov 2007 09:02:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 18738 invoked by uid 500); 13 Nov 2007 09:01:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 18688 invoked by uid 500); 13 Nov 2007 09:01:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 18677 invoked by uid 99); 13 Nov 2007 09:01:57 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:01:57 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.181.65.237] (HELO sun.savoirtech.com) (209.181.65.237) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:02:47 +0000 Received: from MacBookPro.local ([213.223.113.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by sun.savoirtech.com (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAD91VIw021665 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:01:33 -0700 Message-ID: <473967EA.5070906@apache.org> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:01:30 +0100 From: Jeff Genender User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: Distribution and start/stop of clustered deployments References: <47388ED9.7050000@apache.org> <5F7BA842-86D1-4EE1-864E-C32D02FF1A1F@optusnet.com.au> <47393951.1070602@apache.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.9 (2007-02-13) on sun.savoirtech.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/4757/Mon Nov 12 10:20:27 2007 on sun.savoirtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Old-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 required=5.6 tests=BAYES_00,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.1.9 Gianny Damour wrote: > I hope we are not talking about the same thing. I am talking about a > "deployment time" constraint and not a "runtime" constraint mandating > that all the servers are reachable when an application is *deployed*. > FWIW, such a constraint was also defined by WebLogic 7.0; from WebLogic > 8.x+, this constraint was subsequently relaxed in order to allow the > deployment to a sub-set of the cluster members - however, users can > still enforce it if they want and partial deployments is not > recommended. As previously said, it is trivial to implement a GBean to > distribute a backed configuration to a server, which was not reachable > upon deployment. Yes I mean deployment time... I don't see a difference. Yes...I think a switch for "allor nothing" or "deploy to those who can" would be a good feature to have. Jeff