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From David Jencks <>
Subject Re: How to switch web service providers?
Date Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:32:44 GMT

On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Paul McMahan wrote:

> Why not use the plugins portlet in the admin console?  From the  
> admin console in tomcat6-jee5 I was able to stop the axis  
> components and then install the cxf and cxf-deployer plugins from  
> the online Geronimo plugin repository all within about a minute.

I think this is related to my (4).  I'm fine with shipping with only  
one web service framework per server but asking people to use the  
admin console and go through more than one step is too hard IMO.

david jencks

> Best wishes,
> Paul
> On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:26 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>> I made the plugin system support the condition expressions we've  
>> been using to select a web service container but I can't see how  
>> to make it work usefully so I wonder if we need a new approach.
>> Previously the conditions for axis2 and cxf we different in the  
>> jetty and tomcat servers, so cxf was on by default for jetty and  
>> axis2 for tomcat.  However now these conditions are specified in  
>> the axis2 and cxf deployer plugins, so when installed they are  
>> going to be the same for jetty and tomcat.  I guess we could come  
>> up with yet more complicated expressions that took into account  
>> whether we are on jetty or tomcat but this seems like its getting  
>> ridiculous and we need another way.
>> Here are a few ideas.
>> 1. More assemblies.  I don't think anyone really wants this.
>> 2. gshell commands to set the web service container.  I guess we  
>> could run this on say the tomcat assembly to switch it to axis2  
>> before we pack it up.  Well, actually we could use this so we only  
>> ship one server and use such commands to turn it into a jetty or  
>> tomcat server.
>> 3. gshell commands to remove sets of unneeded plugins: this would  
>> more permanently convert a server to axis2 or cxf only.  However I  
>> think this is fairly appropriate.  Again this could be used to get  
>> all non-framework servers out of one big distro.
>> 4. gshell commands to download and install specific servers  
>> starting from framework.
>> I'd actually like the gshell commands for 2,3,4 anyway but I'm  
>> wondering if any of them will actually provide a good solution for  
>> this problem.
>> thoughts?  Anyone have a better idea?
>> thanks
>> david jencks

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