Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 99637 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2007 19:56:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Jul 2007 19:56:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 20325 invoked by uid 500); 29 Jul 2007 19:56:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 19908 invoked by uid 500); 29 Jul 2007 19:56:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 19897 invoked by uid 99); 29 Jul 2007 19:56:50 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:56:50 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of kevan.miller@gmail.com designates 66.249.82.234 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.82.234] (HELO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.234) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:56:44 +0000 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1088948wxd for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:56:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=mRed9vLsOrcTh3Cxji2lDNFcB0Q4gt8i2pFp+/tPpGwHQmRt78z8WaGDsFiYzr7C/IiKjUVf/LKMxQ9XbLCnxxLkNHSOksTM8AzyPlhVR6+rSJH/yjKG31Be4FfMiypJa9AMk6gAg2IeOzPQz4Dsf5kKiy5X+VlS0nMLirnUdNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=VR9mVLAyYTwKt5pPt2sRuw0rZAxrkE1aTbvRLOJQcrGcvN9XyelTGdN7jah3owmNUu/aG6Fm87hqJ7F237p52moIsaMVg0bVxe1Di3MzEplAifblJXWmJ+qkEAtTYt85UFyjibfTuTrWhTXfAJ0qcjfg0kiLbIATmPUGw+4PH9k= Received: by 10.90.78.9 with SMTP id a9mr1371721agb.1185738983436; Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? ( [69.134.127.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 39sm2427054agb.2007.07.29.12.56.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <22d56c4d0707272241v60d98c91ja5a1038efa06c083@mail.gmail.com> References: <22d56c4d0707252221p6b2818abh21058ba0ce04372a@mail.gmail.com> <22d56c4d0707272241v60d98c91ja5a1038efa06c083@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--874132909 Message-Id: <1373B79F-D52A-4EC4-A090-4A128C8DCF40@gmail.com> From: Kevan Miller Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Adding a "Tech Preview" portlet group in Admin Console in G 2.0 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:56:20 -0400 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-1--874132909 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jul 28, 2007, at 1:41 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy wrote: > > > On 7/28/07, Kevan Miller wrote: > > On Jul 26, 2007, at 1:21 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy wrote: > >> How about adding a "Tech Preview" portlet group in Admin Console >> in G 2.0 where we can include the portlets (for e.g., the "Create >> Plan" portlet Shiva is working on. See https://issues.apache.org/ >> jira/browse/GERONIMO-3254 ) for which user feedback will play a >> great role in improving those further. Once we decide on whether >> to retain those or not, we can either move them out to a different >> group or remove them from Admin Console accordingly. > > Some of the new pluggable console support would have helped, here. > But that's not going into 2.0. Personally, sounds like this should > go into trunk, if it's not ready... Can still get good feedback... > > --kevan > > > The idea is that if these portlets go in as part of a release with > binaries readily available for download, we have a better chance of > getting more users to try the portlets and possibly provide some > feedback too in the linked wiki pages. If it goes only into trunk, > the users will still have to build the binaries from trunk, which > they may not want to/may not succeed due to some reason or the other. Yes, I understood the idea. If a committer thinks that this code is ready and wants to commit it, then why isn't it in trunk? If it was in trunk, then we could evaluate and discuss getting it into branches/2.0. I'm currently doubtful that it should go into 2.0... --kevan --Apple-Mail-1--874132909 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Jul 28, 2007, = at 1:41 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy wrote:



On 7/28/07, Kevan Miller <kevan.miller@gmail.com> = wrote:

On Jul 26, 2007, = at 1:21 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy wrote:

How about adding a "Tech Preview" portlet group in Admin = Console in G 2.0 where we can include the portlets (for e.g., the = "Create Plan" portlet Shiva is working on.=A0 See = https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3254 ) for which user = feedback will play a great role in improving those further.=A0 Once we = decide on whether to retain those or not, we can either move them out to = a different group or remove them from Admin Console accordingly. =

Some of the new pluggable console = support would have helped, here. But that's not going into 2.0. = Personally, sounds like this should go into trunk, if it's not ready... = Can still get good feedback...

--kevan


The idea is that if these portlets go in as part of a = release with binaries readily available for download, we have a better = chance of getting more users to try the portlets and possibly provide = some feedback too in the linked wiki pages.=A0 If it goes only into = trunk, the users will still have to build the binaries from trunk, which = they may not want to/may not succeed due to some reason or the other.

Yes, I = understood the idea.=A0

If a committer thinks that = this code is ready and wants to commit it, then why isn't it in trunk? = If it was in trunk, then we could evaluate and discuss getting it into = branches/2.0. I'm currently doubtful that it should go into = 2.0...

--kevan



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