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From Donald Woods <dwo...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Atkins for Geronimo - was Re: [DISCUSS] 2.0 Release Criteria
Date Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:56:18 GMT
+1 as this would provide a common schema for other vendor implementations 
(like MySQL, Oracle, DB2, ...)

-Donald

David Jencks wrote:
> 
> On Jun 28, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
> 
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Jay D. McHugh wrote:
>>
>>> The page has been updated to move the contents of repository/geronimo 
>>> to repository/org/apache/geronimo.
>>>
>>> I found a couple of other places where contents of the repository 
>>> moved (tranql -> org/tranql, etc) and fixed those as well.
>>>
>>> If anyone sees a module that moved (that I missed) let me know and 
>>> I'll rework the table.
>>>
>>> I already caught org/apache/geronimo/activemq-broker(1.2) s/b 
>>> org/apache/geronimo/configs/activemq-broker but haven't fixed it 
>>> yet.  For sizing purposes, that will not affect the following results.
>>>
>>> Here are the places that I am seeing that the repository has grown 
>>> (between 1.1.1 and 2.0):
>>>
>>> Added (size rounded to nearest Meg)
>>> com/sun/xml (5M)
>>> commons-codec (1M)
>>> commons-fileupload (1M)
>>> commons-httpclient (1M)
>>> commons-io (1M)
>>> commons-jexl (1M)
>>> commons-lang (1M)
>>> commons-primitives (1M)
>>> directory (1M)
>>> directory-asn1 (1M)
>>> directory-network (1M)
>>> directory-protocols (1M)
>>> directory-shared (1M)
>>> dwr (1M)
>>> javax (1M)
>>> jaxen (1M)
>>> jdbm (1M)
>>> jline (1M)
>>> jstl (1M)
>>> net (1M)
>>> ognl (1M)
>>> org/apache/axis2 (3M)
>>> org/apache/bcel (1M)
>>> org/apache/cxf (2M)
>>> org/apache/httpcomponents (1M)
>>> org/apache/myfaces (1M)
>>> org/apache/neethi (1M)
>>> org/apache/openjpa (3M)
>>> org/apache/ws/commons/axiom (1M)
>>> org/apache/yoko (4M)
>>> org/codehaus/castor (3M)
>>> org/codehaus/swizzle (1M)
>>> org/sl4j (1M)
>>> org/springframework (1)
>>> oro (1M)
>>> regexp (1M)
>>> woodstox (1M)
>>> xml-resolver (1M)
>>>
>>> Grew (growth rounded to nearest Meg)
>>> org/apache/activemq (1M)
>>> org/apache/geronimo (Some additions, some reductions: 8M overall - 
>>> ~5M of this is dojo)
>>> org/apache/tomcat (1M)
>>> org/apache/xbean (1M) - We have 3.0 snapshot and 3.1 snapshot in 2.0
>>>
>>> Those are only the increases.  There may be more, but these were the 
>>> ones that I caught (there are still some moved module issues yet to 
>>> be found).  As best as I could tell, upgrades between versions of the 
>>> same component did not significantly contribute to the increase in 
>>> footprint.  Additional components is where we got hit the hardest.
>>
>> Nice. Thanks for doing this Jay and Prasad...
>>
>> Nothing really jumps out at me as being unnecessary... Just scanning 
>> that list for the big hitters...
>>
>> com/sun (5M) is new
>> org/apache/yoko (4M) is new
>> org/apache/castor (3M) is new. OpenEJB is no longer dependent on 
>> castor (IIRC) We could look to see who else is dependent on it...
>> org/apache/openjpa (3M) is new.
>> org/apache/axis2 (3M)
>> org/apache/cxf (2M) is new.
>>
>> All, except perhaps castor, are needed...
>>
>>
>> If we really wanted to cut down on carbs, we could ask ourselves if we 
>> really need to package Dojo. That would save 5 megs.
>>
>> The only thing worth spending much time on, IMO, are Geronimo configs. 
>> By my count, configs in 2.0 is 15 Meg. In 1.1.1 they were 3.5 Megs 
>> (repository/geronimo/geronimo-*)
>>
>> Should definitely look at is moving jar files (especially the 
>> redundant ones) out of org/apache/geronimo/configs. As in:
>>
>> ./activemq-ra/2.0-SNAPSHOT/activemq-ra-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/rar/activemq-core-4.1.1.jar

>>
>> ./activemq-ra/2.0-SNAPSHOT/activemq-ra-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/rar/activemq-ra-4.1.1.jar

>>
>> ./ca-helper-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/ca-helper-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/geronimo-ca-helper-2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar

>>
>> ./dojo-jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/dojo-jetty6-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/geronimo-dojo-2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar

>>
>> ./remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/remote-deploy-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/asm-2.2.3.jar

>>
>> ./remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/remote-deploy-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/asm-commons-2.2.3.jar

>>
>> ./remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/remote-deploy-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/asm-tree-2.2.3.jar

>>
>> ./remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/remote-deploy-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/cglib-nodep-2.1_3.jar

>>
>> ./remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/remote-deploy-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/commons-logging-1.0.4.jar

>>
>> ./remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/remote-deploy-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/geronimo-kernel-2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar

>>
>> ./remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/remote-deploy-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/geronimo-remote-deploy-2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar

>>
>> ./remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/remote-deploy-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/log4j-1.2.14.jar

>>
>> ./remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/remote-deploy-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/xpp3-1.1.3.3.jar

>>
>> ./remote-deploy-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/remote-deploy-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/xstream-1.1.3.jar

>>
>> ./system-database/2.0-SNAPSHOT/system-database-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/rar/tranql-connector-1.3.jar

>>
>> ./system-database/2.0-SNAPSHOT/system-database-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/rar/tranql-connector-derby-common-1.3.jar

>>
>> ./uddi-jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/uddi-jetty6-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/uddi-db/tranql-connector-1.3.jar

>>
>> ./uddi-jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/uddi-jetty6-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/uddi-db/tranql-connector-derby-common-1.3.jar

>>
>> ./uddi-jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/uddi-jetty6-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/uddi-jetty/WEB-INF/lib/geronimo-uddi-server-2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar

>>
>> ./webconsole-jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/webconsole-jetty6-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/framework.war/WEB-INF/lib/geronimo-console-framework-2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar

>>
>> ./webconsole-jetty6/2.0-SNAPSHOT/webconsole-jetty6-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/standard.war/WEB-INF/lib/geronimo-console-standard-2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar

>>
>> ./welcome-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/welcome-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/geronimo-servlet_2.5_spec-1.1-20070613.151247-4.jar

>>
>> ./welcome-jetty/2.0-SNAPSHOT/welcome-jetty-2.0-SNAPSHOT.car/WEB-INF/lib/geronimo-welcome-2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar

>>
> 
> I suspect a lot of these are due to m2 war plugin pulling in stuff we 
> don't expect: this should be easy and a good idea to fix.
> 
> The connectors (and maybe amq) are a bit trickier.  The standard war 
> packaging results in pulling copies of the jars in each time you deploy 
> another instance of a connector.  I wonder if it would be worthwhile to 
> create tranql rars with no jars inside, just the ra.xmls, and have 
> configurations with  the classes (and driver classes).  So we'd have a 
> derby-connector car with the tranql connector and tranql-derby-connector 
> jar and the derby jars and that would be a parent of system-database 
> (which would use the no-classes tranql derby connector rar).  Especially 
> with embedded drivers its pretty much necessary to make sure everyone is 
> loading derby classes from the same classloader so this would mean we no 
> longer have to use system-database as a parent, we could use the 
> "classes only" module instead.
> 
> Not sure how much space this would save...
> 
> thanks
> david jencks
> 
>>
>> --kevan
>>
> 
> 
> 

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