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From Jason Dillon <>
Subject Re: Ideas on a rc.d kind of directory
Date Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:32:21 GMT
I still think that G could do with a tiny bootstrap JVM to handle all  
of the required flags and properties that are needed now for the  
server to opperate properly (and in a platform neutral manner).  This  
could also be used to spawn clones or cluster nodes.  As well as  
handling remote restarts and recovery from JVM crashes.

IMO this is critical for uber massive enterprise deployments as well  
as smaller scale cluster management.

I also think that GShell would be ideal for the base platform for such  
a bootstrap JVM.

I think it should be realativly easy to setup a POC if folks are  


P.S. Typed on my iPhone.  Still not quite as fast as my blackberry...  
But I dropped in beer at the Giants/Doggers game.  Ooops ;-)

On Jul 14, 2007, at 6:41 AM, Jeff Genender <> wrote:

> Donald Woods wrote:
>> Is this a scenario that would be better handled by the gshell code in
>> sandbox or some daemon code that also handles the multiple server
>> instance support?
>> Thought here, would be gshell could read a standard Java properties  
>> file
>> for JVM args and then launch the server with them.....
> As long as one JVM launches, the other (ie. gshell or groovy can start
> another instance of a JVM) then this is doable.  Otherwise, this won't
> work...with my Terracotta example being a reason.
>> In my eyes, scripts are a no-go, unless you can make them platform
>> neutral and not require users to install a third-party solution like
>> Perl (on Windows) to make it work.
> We already ship sh and bat code...why would this be a no-go?  If  
> this is
> the case, then we shouldn't be shipping startup scripts in bat and sh
> format.
>> -Donald
>> Jeff Genender wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> As we move forward and we integrate with more and more 3rd party
>>> products, we will need the ability to be able to change an  
>>> environment
>>> variable through a plugin, or add a commandline JAVA_OPTS, etc.
>>> Currently our startup scripts call the to set  
>>> environment
>>> properties.  It would really be nice to have the ability to have a
>>> "scripts" directory, where all of the scripts get executed before
>>> Geronimo is launched.  Why do we want this?
>>> As we grow in our plugins, they will need to set environment or java
>>> options set before running G.  They may also have a need to start  
>>> or run
>>> other outside processes  that are not a part of G.
>>> It would be great to allow plugins to install an rc script that gets
>>> executed to do activities before and perhaps after G is run?
>>> I would propose we create a scripts directory under bin or under var
>>> that could be similar to init.d, and have it called with start/stop,
>>> etc.  This way plugins can install specific scripts in these  
>>> directories
>>> for execution.
>>> Thoughts?
>>> Jeff

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