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(drw_web@75.177.173.44 with plain) by smtp105.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 2007 02:23:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 8h5UFXcVM1kCSTve7eGJ4pFXAMXKQEI95zAsWZ6GD.xS9LTISb4O2UDI6lBs8.pFmbr2helJ6gMndVQQ_lbI5p2XPwGvQmmQs3bkmBAHcSZW66eHGiUK05BD9pUO Message-ID: <467B32B7.9080708@apache.org> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:23:51 -0400 From: Donald Woods Reply-To: dwoods@apache.org User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] 2.0 Release Criteria References: <1b5bfeb50706210959g72e90fai3eabf49fb26368c4@mail.gmail.com> <467ADFF4.9070301@joyfulnoisewebdesign.com> In-Reply-To: <467ADFF4.9070301@joyfulnoisewebdesign.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010006070605000908050408" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010006070605000908050408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For footprint, we could shave 4-5MB by removing ApacheDS and a couple sample apps that are getting installed. Given there is a ApacheDS 1.0 and 1.5 release stream, we should move this out to the geronimo/plugins/trunk and allow users to choose which level they want to install from our plugin site..... -Donald Jay D. McHugh wrote: > I agree that 'fit and finish' and tooling are probably the most > important things to clean up before the final 2.0.0 release. > > As far as footprint - on my system, tomcat-jee5 is about 75M installed. > Getting this down to 40M seems like a huge task to try to accomplish > before releasing. When we added Dojo to the server, that was an > additional 6M right there - So maybe trying to cut 20-25M rather than > 35M would be more realistic. > > Jay > > Jacek Laskowski wrote: >> On 6/21/07, Matt Hogstrom wrote: >>> We've gone through the CTS grind and came out victorious http:// >>> java.sun.com/javaee/overview/compatibility.jsp >>> >>> OpenEJB has moved to TopLevel and CXF has certified and Axis 2 is >>> working that way too. >>> >>> All in all its been an excellent six months. >>> >>> So, what are we going to do for 2.0 and getting it out the door? >> >> I think you narrowed it down to the acceptable minimum and the sooner >> Geronimo 2.0 sees the light the better. No need to wait for anything >> else but bugs and only those that prevent us from releasing Geronimo. >> I know that having a Java EE 5 certified release as RC is not a good >> option for many people. A Java EE 5 certified and final release is >> what people seem to be waiting for - me at very least. >> >> Of course, tooling is another factor why people would choose Geronimo >> over...ekhm...other app servers so Eclipse and NetBeans support with >> M2 plugins would be a great bonus to offer. Eclipse plugin is almost >> ready whereas NetBeans IDE...hmm....more to come soon. I had some >> minor issues with geronimo m2 plugin so when Geronimo gets appropriate >> attention being able to boot up a fully Java EE 5 certified >> application server and test out ears is another differentiator. So, >> let's polish it and put on the shelves...asap - 07/15 the very least. >> >> Jacek >> > > --------------ms010006070605000908050408 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJAzCC AtwwggJFoAMCAQICEGl0fFJRFoUogDNHr2j130gwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3MDQwMzE5MDgwOFoX DTA4MDQwMjE5MDgwOFowQzEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEgMB4G CSqGSIb3DQEJARYRZHdvb2RzQGFwYWNoZS5vcmcwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAw ggEKAoIBAQDENBaTcon2Q3/v2plog9ympNR5IWM94JDvXhWanc1Qz07/sIerwI99WZ4z0AAV wBelazRFCsXkFCaNDM1sOJ0gx4I+KISb5XoX/omAhYIs+Cwac2hitDraZE2Q7x281nLn4TPR d29GVpUZVKsaDvmvnDAagGTEkOfHBx/yUihzshJn4S6n6vahimEWWXn5Qw4Oj5Muvz8iKGoA MilrHZrfSKvCqT0LhGaFnZhrMvqeCguf0/IlP6YJ2kBmouV3XHFUaiai4PQZ7ahtbW7meKb4 b25QUjIFJHIr0KhJXqoGADRAlBgTaqWBIKbdTmYBsr55aasjp5TU+XAxiqFr1FoTAgMBAAGj LjAsMBwGA1UdEQQVMBOBEWR3b29kc0BhcGFjaGUub3JnMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDQYJKoZI hvcNAQEFBQADgYEAJReGzfwY5+BY6PuXJQLURKni6kBaFi7Z7b+tjn6iTdlZhbSF9YHazHIJ 9J6oaOzfG28JroaAlk9PeAvbC38f2kaU4bWQgm6yp6308ZRyM8V3CHXe6Wm9bXiJeZCRTpix Mvxo+mWG2Jq0vnfjWxt+Fbi0ic1xl3I+1UguMfAfAggwggLcMIICRaADAgECAhBpdHxSURaF KIAzR69o9d9IMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3 dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJl ZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTAeFw0wNzA0MDMxOTA4MDhaFw0wODA0MDIxOTA4MDhaMEMxHzAd BgNVBAMTFlRoYXd0ZSBGcmVlbWFpbCBNZW1iZXIxIDAeBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEWR3b29kc0Bh cGFjaGUub3JnMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAxDQWk3KJ9kN/79qZ aIPcpqTUeSFjPeCQ714Vmp3NUM9O/7CHq8CPfVmeM9AAFcAXpWs0RQrF5BQmjQzNbDidIMeC PiiEm+V6F/6JgIWCLPgsGnNoYrQ62mRNkO8dvNZy5+Ez0XdvRlaVGVSrGg75r5wwGoBkxJDn xwcf8lIoc7ISZ+Eup+r2oYphFll5+UMODo+TLr8/IihqADIpax2a30irwqk9C4RmhZ2YazL6 ngoLn9PyJT+mCdpAZqLld1xxVGomouD0Ge2obW1u5nim+G9uUFIyBSRyK9CoSV6qBgA0QJQY E2qlgSCm3U5mAbK+eWmrI6eU1PlwMYqha9RaEwIDAQABoy4wLDAcBgNVHREEFTATgRFkd29v ZHNAYXBhY2hlLm9yZzAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBACUXhs38GOfg WOj7lyUC1ESp4upAWhYu2e2/rY5+ok3ZWYW0hfWB2sxyCfSeqGjs3xtvCa6GgJZPT3gL2wt/ H9pGlOG1kIJusqet9PGUcjPFdwh13ulpvW14iXmQkU6YsTL8aPplhtiatL5341sbfhW4tInN cZdyPtVILjHwHwIIMIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYD VQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNl cyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJ KoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAw MFoXDTEzMDcxNjIzNTk1OVowYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25z dWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJ c3N1aW5nIENBMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1 BHCd3+n/ox7svc31W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwL B+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZ cmC3+wIDAQABo4GUMIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYy aHR0cDovL2NybC50aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFsRnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYD VR0PBAQDAgEGMCkGA1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODAN BgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82 L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3hYWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowgT2Vfldr3 94fWxghOrvbqNOUQGls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCA2QwggNgAgEBMHYwYjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAq BgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhBpdHxSURaFKIAz R69o9d9IMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgggHDMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZI hvcNAQkFMQ8XDTA3MDYyMjAyMjM1MVowIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFGtp2RhM5OZWM7SlJIz/ /somAHJ4MFIGCSqGSIb3DQEJDzFFMEMwCgYIKoZIhvcNAwcwDgYIKoZIhvcNAwICAgCAMA0G CCqGSIb3DQMCAgFAMAcGBSsOAwIHMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgEoMIGFBgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxeDB2 MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQu MSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQaXR8UlEW hSiAM0evaPXfSDCBhwYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxeKB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQK ExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29u YWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQaXR8UlEWhSiAM0evaPXfSDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEF AASCAQASG585cW++KqZbiVlTdJbpABurrZLxfJxIix2DRbcYDeee0euCF0/Patg+smm7tJ9n YU2AAURzaBmoTBuaIohjDgAUvnJKnsdokg6uT7UKwGRC5y3CK/ck1nbZCPcQ/8RuPNEPvjRk k4KawNPZNjEiyYLWw5xx36fu0eqHrKpSykkgb+ZVbGCcYRJJFf9NjqCuFc4Uemp4se1ITGle Ys5hqG/eTDMCE4lW1LYNqHojEd3WjVPdUdXbqykXlX1pyCwQAkbGrRAJucCtbypCyTc0SnnT CugA2vWNHyRA0kbShqNgdCj0uDRcNwAA9DDATn+OFU2bs4cDKHSy8RWioJu+AAAAAAAA --------------ms010006070605000908050408--