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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:26:34 +0530
From: "Vamsavardhana Reddy" <c1vamsi1c@gmail.com>
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: Re: Geronimo/Tuscany integration
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I agree with Dain.

Vamsi

On 4/26/07, Dain Sundstrom <dain@iq80.com> wrote:
> I suggest you get option 1 working before attempting option 2.  I
> suspect you will find lots of bugs and mismatched assumptions.  Once
> that is working, option 2 will be much easier to implement since you
> know it "Should Work".
>
> -dain
>
> On Apr 25, 2007, at 1:23 PM, Jay D. McHugh wrote:
>
> > Hello Raymond,
> >
> > I think it would almost be a shame if the only option for including
> > Tuscany in Geronimo was to package the runtime jar in individual
> > WAR files.
> >
> > Tuscany would make an excellent (I think) plugin.
> >
> > Option 2 definitely.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > Raymond Feng wrote:
> >> Hi, Geronimo community.
> >>
> >> As you may know, Tuscany is an Apache project under incubation to
> >> provide an open source SOA infrastructure. For more information,
> >> you can visit http://cwiki.apache.org/TUSCANY/.
> >>
> >> Tuscany implements the SCA specification (http://www.osoa.org) and
> >> allows you to develop and run SCA components in various hosting
> >> environments. We currently integrate with Tomcat and Jetty and
> >> would like to try to integrate with Geronimo as well. I would like
> >> to start some discussions here to figure out the best way to do that.
> >>
> >> After some preliminary investigations of Geronimo, I feel that
> >> there are two options on the table so far.
> >>
> >> 1) Shallow integration: Package SCA applications together with the
> >> Tuscany runtime as WARs and deploy them Geronimo as Web
> >> applications. It's basically the integration with a Web container.
> >> We register a TuscanyContextListner (which implements
> >> javax.servlet.ServletContextListener) in web.xml to start/stop the
> >> Tuscany runtime when the web application is started/stopped.
> >>
> >> This will allow us to support the following use cases:
> >> * A Web application hosted by Geronimo with business logic written
> >> as SCA components
> >> * Expose one or more SCA components as Web services over HTTP as
> >> supported by the Web container.
> >>
> >> 2) Deep integration: We package the Tuscany runtime and its
> >> dependencies as Geronimo modules and deploy them to Geronimo
> >> (which is similar to how Tomcat is integrated as the Web container
> >> for Geronimo). We can then create a Tuscany plugin (a collection
> >> of modules) so that it can be added to Geronimo. The Tuscany
> >> container will then handle SCA-specific deployment plans to
> >> install SCA applications and provide runtime infrastructure for them.
> >>
> >> On top of Option 2, we could further integrate Geronimo's J2EE
> >> capabilities such as EJB, WS, JMS and JCA with Tuscany. Basically,
> >> SCA components will be able to access JEE services (using SCA
> >> composite references) and SCA components will be able to expose
> >> services (SCA composite services) over JEE protocols as well.
> >>
> >> This will allow us to support the following use cases:
> >> * Any J2EE application hosted by Geronimo would be able to take
> >> advantage of SCA programming model
> >> * Provide SCA services over various protocols such as RMI/IIOP,
> >> JMS and JCA
> >> * Invoke existing JEE applications (EJB, JMS backend, JCA-based
> >> EIS or Web Services) from SCA components
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Raymond
> >> Apache Tuscany committer
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>