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From "Jay D. McHugh" <>
Subject Re: Geronimo/Tuscany integration
Date Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:23:11 GMT
Hello Raymond,

I think it would almost be a shame if the only option for including 
Tuscany in Geronimo was to package the runtime jar in individual WAR files.

Tuscany would make an excellent (I think) plugin.

Option 2 definitely.


Raymond Feng wrote:
> Hi, Geronimo community.
> As you may know, Tuscany is an Apache project under incubation to 
> provide an open source SOA infrastructure. For more information, you 
> can visit
> Tuscany implements the SCA specification ( and 
> allows you to develop and run SCA components in various hosting 
> environments. We currently integrate with Tomcat and Jetty and would 
> like to try to integrate with Geronimo as well. I would like to start 
> some discussions here to figure out the best way to do that.
> After some preliminary investigations of Geronimo, I feel that there 
> are two options on the table so far.
> 1) Shallow integration: Package SCA applications together with the 
> Tuscany runtime as WARs and deploy them Geronimo as Web applications. 
> It's basically the integration with a Web container. We register a 
> TuscanyContextListner (which implements 
> javax.servlet.ServletContextListener) in web.xml to start/stop the 
> Tuscany runtime when the web application is started/stopped.
> This will allow us to support the following use cases:
> * A Web application hosted by Geronimo with business logic written as 
> SCA components
> * Expose one or more SCA components as Web services over HTTP as 
> supported by the Web container.
> 2) Deep integration: We package the Tuscany runtime and its 
> dependencies as Geronimo modules and deploy them to Geronimo (which is 
> similar to how Tomcat is integrated as the Web container for 
> Geronimo). We can then create a Tuscany plugin (a collection of 
> modules) so that it can be added to Geronimo. The Tuscany container 
> will then handle SCA-specific deployment plans to install SCA 
> applications and provide runtime infrastructure for them.
> On top of Option 2, we could further integrate Geronimo's J2EE 
> capabilities such as EJB, WS, JMS and JCA with Tuscany. Basically, SCA 
> components will be able to access JEE services (using SCA composite 
> references) and SCA components will be able to expose services (SCA 
> composite services) over JEE protocols as well.
> This will allow us to support the following use cases:
> * Any J2EE application hosted by Geronimo would be able to take 
> advantage of SCA programming model
> * Provide SCA services over various protocols such as RMI/IIOP, JMS 
> and JCA
> * Invoke existing JEE applications (EJB, JMS backend, JCA-based EIS or 
> Web Services) from SCA components
> Any thoughts?
> Thanks,
> Raymond
> Apache Tuscany committer

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