Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 62723 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2007 19:14:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Mar 2007 19:14:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 60275 invoked by uid 500); 7 Mar 2007 19:14:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 60235 invoked by uid 500); 7 Mar 2007 19:14:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 60224 invoked by uid 99); 7 Mar 2007 19:14:13 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:14:13 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of jason.dillon@gmail.com designates 64.233.162.228 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.162.228] (HELO nz-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.162.228) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:14:01 -0800 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id j2so219548nzf for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:13:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:sender; b=DoOys5+b/HfuXbEAc2FYPd4NIbfCKHOREgFuEk5ZWNW5wS+xpmkUOfHq2nFn3zLJRimE7DtC9vb9Ixue8E/3Y8FfHRb4wBKW2ik+WCagTKknqOdUfx+AmNIRPxGfIwMxidojQ1Dzh/HxFVf1y1msR4O7deDWUMl0LL3nLc7Jqys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:sender; b=L5guw87TmBVcsl9sZcBhvreOlGVyOjvD508K9wDZ09RigqldJihySLqNTSUqG5sokkJg9QoJrNDy0Zvkmwo/ZseBkdkNbhI4EREzPtqs/xf4bWjvaTz5Hm+2ulul8K9FyaNGJ0jO7eKzjJuidjLRYBSs7pCIp5J7MxZ0FK5G/PM= Received: by 10.35.76.9 with SMTP id d9mr20295362pyl.1173294820869; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.2? ( [24.7.69.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f60sm1702804pyh.2007.03.07.11.13.38; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:13:39 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <471A0BC9-E1FC-47B9-8D65-6C9D3A70A370@gmail.com> References: <3F357798-0283-4A2A-A784-E86CFA71C096@planet57.com> <1b5bfeb50703061426j6b0b3e92jea72b4a008fdc163@mail.gmail.com> <1742A988-01BD-4C0B-943F-02D9A520F930@planet57.com> <1b5bfeb50703061438k62a5e07wb43c4e1b83d38d45@mail.gmail.com> <8B030168-22B0-40FE-B848-FD60A5E861A1@gmail.com> <58A92B96-6F1E-47B6-A1B1-036BA8F4FF81@planet57.com> <45EF02AC.5060504@gmail.com> <471A0BC9-E1FC-47B9-8D65-6C9D3A70A370@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--433395809 Message-Id: <80DCC2EF-B9E5-41FB-A9CF-9E1098F4B94E@planet57.com> From: Jason Dillon Subject: Re: why do we call the "eclipse plugin" devtools? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:13:36 -0800 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Sender: Jason Dillon X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-6--433395809 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Does eclipse follow redirects? --jason On Mar 7, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Sachin Patel wrote: > If the URL changes for the site.xml changes it will break things > from an update manager perspective. The URL to the eclipse related > files need to stay the same. Please do not move these. > > -sachin > > > On Mar 7, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Hernan Cunico wrote: > >> This is more a organizational kind of question. >> How should we maintain the eclipse-plugin specific content (other >> than eclipse-plugin.html that could be in the root dir). >> There is currently a devtools directory that contains some eclipse- >> plugin related files. Should we create a new sub-dir under >> devtools for each subproject and move the content there? >> >> Cheers! >> Hernan >> >> Sachin Patel wrote: >>> Ok, I see how this could clarrify things. I don't have a problem >>> with this. >>> -sachin >>> On Mar 7, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: >>>> Primarily its the link on the site (in the side-nav) and the >>>> name of the page which is linked to, though I have read emails >>>> in the past too which talk about "devtools" when they meant >>>> "eclipse-plugin". Anyways, when we get more devtools sub- >>>> projects I think each should have their own page and a separate >>>> link... and their own JIRA. I don't like the umbrella page. >>>> >>>> For example, I'd like to see: >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> | Development Tools | >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> | Eclipse Plugin | <--- links to eclipse-plugin.html >>>> | Netbeans Plugin | <--- links to netbeans-plugin.html >>>> | ... >>>> >>>> (sorry evil ascii art) >>>> >>>> the NB thing is an example, since AFAIK we don't have one of >>>> those yet. >>>> >>>> --jason >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:44 AM, Sachin Patel wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't understand. What is currently named devtools besides >>>>> the link on the site? I favor what we have currently, but if >>>>> you feel strongly about this, I will not object any changes you >>>>> make. >>>>> >>>>> -sachin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 6, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Jacek Laskowski wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/6/07, Jason Dillon >>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess the thing I don't really like right now... is that we >>>>>>> refer >>>>>>> to the "eclipse-plugin" as "devtools" interchangeably. I >>>>>>> believe >>>>>>> that should change... and I think the way to make that change >>>>>>> is to >>>>>>> start renaming stuff that was previously "devtools" (which >>>>>>> was solely >>>>>>> for eclipse tooling support) to "eclipse-plugin". >>>>>> >>>>>> I second that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacek >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Jacek Laskowski >>>>>> http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl >>>>> >>>> > --Apple-Mail-6--433395809 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does eclipse follow = redirects?

--jason


On Mar 7, = 2007, at 10:47 AM, Sachin Patel wrote:

If the URL = changes for the site.xml changes it will break things from an update = manager perspective.=A0 The URL to the eclipse related files need to = stay the same.=A0 Please do not move these.

 =

On Mar 7, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Hernan Cunico = wrote:

This is more a organizational = kind of question.=A0
How should we maintain the eclipse-plugin specific = content (other than eclipse-plugin.html that could be in the root = dir).
There is currently a devtools = directory that contains some eclipse-plugin related files. Should we = create a new sub-dir under devtools for each subproject and move the = content there?

Cheers!

Sachin Patel wrote:
Ok, I see how this could = clarrify things.=A0 I don't = have a problem with this.
On Mar 7, 2007, at 12:32 PM, = Jason Dillon wrote:
Primarily its the link on the site (in the side-nav) = and the name of the page which is linked to, though I have read emails = in the past too which talk about "devtools" when they meant = "eclipse-plugin".=A0 = Anyways, when we get more devtools sub-projects I think each = should have their own page and a separate link... and their own = JIRA.=A0 I don't like the = umbrella page.

For example, I'd like to see:

| Development = Tools |
| Eclipse = Plugin=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | = <--- links to eclipse-plugin.html
| Netbeans = Plugin=A0 =A0 =A0 | <--- = links to netbeans-plugin.html
| = ...

(sorry evil ascii art)

the NB thing = is an example, since AFAIK we don't have one of those yet.



On Mar = 7, 2007, at 5:44 AM, Sachin Patel wrote:

I don't understand.=A0 What is currently named = devtools besides the link on the site?=A0 I favor what we have = currently, but if you feel strongly about this, I will not object any = changes you make.

-sachin


On Mar 6, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Jacek Laskowski = wrote:

=
On 3/6/07, Jason Dillon = <jason@planet57.com <mailto:jason@planet57.com>> = wrote:

=
I guess the thing I don't = really like right now... is that we refer
to the = "eclipse-plugin" as "devtools" interchangeably.=A0 I believe
that should change... and I think the way to make = that change is to
start renaming stuff that was = previously "devtools" (which was solely
for = eclipse tooling support) to "eclipse-plugin".

I second = that.

Jacek

--=A0
Jacek = Laskowski

=

=


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