Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 60274 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2006 17:21:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Nov 2006 17:21:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 49529 invoked by uid 500); 7 Nov 2006 17:22:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 49481 invoked by uid 500); 7 Nov 2006 17:22:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 49466 invoked by uid 99); 7 Nov 2006 17:22:02 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:22:02 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of kevan.miller@gmail.com designates 66.249.82.225 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.82.225] (HELO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.225) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:21:46 -0800 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1352787wxd for ; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:21:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=uHglYKB6gfjXvuBk2x8OA0tmfwQiMKkNlxDNgV9QvBMpA6JrWvGHH9gmPR9hjMYjnsscGEAv/c/TZNJA7M+rqgfg23uqB+bji/EWtyigso79TkR2wv+kqBsGmQlvY2x/8fSRbtJCMXVfxwKAQG+Efby6Cd6tljmLFg+fWt6bxVc= Received: by 10.90.35.15 with SMTP id i15mr3189077agi.1162920080070; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? ( [66.57.98.165]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 11sm3351303wrl.2006.11.07.09.21.19; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:21:20 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <4A68826C-493D-4F6C-9046-6B1DD0F37C2D@iq80.com> References: <7EFB2FA7-9DB7-4040-A4A5-D9FFE3D78A79@gmail.com> <4A68826C-493D-4F6C-9046-6B1DD0F37C2D@iq80.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Kevan Miller Subject: Re: Release most 1.4 specs? Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 12:21:25 -0500 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Nov 7, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > > Are you kidding me? You want to open this up for discussion again > just as we were going to finally make some progress and hopefully > put this to bed. The reorganization we just did was to have one > version number per spec. Well, as you have probably guessed, I'm not. You aren't putting this to "bed". You're ignoring it. I'd like to put it to bed. We agreed to reorg specs. We did not decide whether or not to release specs in independent or interlocked version numbers. Isn't that what we discussed on dev@? > > As you can see, I am totally against changing what we have right > now, one version per spec. Fine. And I'm against releasing a bunch of specs, for which we've gotten the version numbers wrong for twice in this discussion thread. If we can't keep them straight, now, seems like we're destined for confusion in the future. So, you and I cancel each other out. Why don't we let the community decide and move on? I'm happy to abide by our decision... P.S. I'd assumed that we'd be passing TCK before releasing the specs (at least that's how we've operated in the past). There's some risk (probably pretty small) that we'll uncover a problem with specs with our testing. Are you planning on releasing prior to tck passing or afterward? --kevan