Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 48599 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2006 16:49:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Nov 2006 16:49:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 49868 invoked by uid 500); 7 Nov 2006 16:49:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 49829 invoked by uid 500); 7 Nov 2006 16:49:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 49799 invoked by uid 99); 7 Nov 2006 16:49:47 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:49:47 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.93.240.135] (HELO Mail.MeepZor.Info) (66.93.240.135) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:49:31 -0800 Received: by Mail.MeepZor.Info (Postfix, from userid 506) id B11EE43064; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:49:10 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on Bromine.MeepZor.Com X-Spam-Level: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dsl093-240-231.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.240.231]) by Mail.MeepZor.Info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE2E43064; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:49:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4550B8F8.7060408@Golux.Com> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:48:56 -0500 From: Rodent of Unusual Size Reply-To: coar@apache.org Organization: The Apache Software Foundation; Open Source Initiative User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: Java EE 5.0 References: <1b5bfeb50611060912l6375ec22vcc8d4bef78f2e453@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Old-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dain Sundstrom wrote: > Do you mean that we will have two active development trees? Sounds like it. > If so, I'm against that (-1). We have tried that in the past and it > has never worked out for us. We split our developers when we need > focus the most (the end of a release), The implicit assumption there is that the 'developers' all have the same interests. That's not necessarily how it works. If there are some people who are interested in EE 5 but not in the work on trunk, then they probably aren't contributing anything there now. So creating a branch won't be sucking those people away from trunk, whereas *not* creating it won't advance the trunk work and *does* present an obstacle for those people. The uncertainty element here is people who are currently contributing to trunk but would switch over to an EE 5 branch if one were created. Those individuals would be happy, but the trunk work would suffer. On the other hand, part of what contributes to community is individual empowerment. If there's insufficient interest in the trunk work to advance it, then that's pretty much all she wrote. It becomes a dead horse. Trying to mandate that people put aside their own interests and work on stuff that *doesn't* interest them isn't an Apache paradigm. It has a lot more in common with commercial meet-the-deadline models. > and we have never successfully > kept the fixes in sync. Keeping them in sync isn't necessary. Being able to have rendezvous points at which they can be sync'd is better. - -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRVC4+JrNPMCpn3XdAQK71AP/UZBRhj55QUCEg+HdKAWmUl0WLyJJj7G5 eFROEG2vd3D3EF3b+KhFVtlBh9W3035Iig49cC50QO1xh5Su+ZNLRykBhpnCwRNr 0+ZvEPkvEY8nX7OcDvi5jDcXjphP/u3U+9ClqcFoY+eYKwy13tlguNm8M8xyHS6h R7F5NLSq+xk= =+8vE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----