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From Matt Hogstrom <>
Subject The Drive to Five
Date Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:38:21 GMT
I've been noodling over our Java EE 5.0 release of Geronimo and had  
some ideas I wanted to share.

Given that the J2EE space is highly competitive I would love to see  
us have a Java EE 5.0 implementation out before Java One.  We might  
not be the first on the block but we'll be in the pack and that will  
be huge for us in terms of showing we came from behind with J2EE 1.4  
a few years late and now were on a par with our other Open Source  
projects in terms of having software available.  The other cool  
features like plugins will simply set us apart.

My personal goal is to work towards a full release of Apache Geronimo  
2.0 (perhaps it should be 5.0 :)  available around the end of March  
in 2007.  In order to have a version available by that date we need  
to deliver some milestones earlier so we can get user feedback, tweak  
the server and fix some bugs.  So here is my thinking, let me know  
how this sounds to you.

22nd - Release Milestone 1  this release would include:
   Java 1.5 as the base JDK
   JSP 2.1 (Jetty and Tomcat)
   JSF 1.2
   Java Mail
   JTA 1.1
   JMS 1.1 (Active MQ 4)
   JPA (Open JPA)
   EJB 2.1 (Open EJB 2.3/2?)

This release would not be certified but would be an incremental  
version for people to noodle on

26th - Release Milestone 2
   Add EJB 3.0 in its current form (need David's input on this)
   JEE Mgmt 1.1
   Web Services 1.2 (perhaps the Axis guys or Celtixfire folks have  
some thoughts on this)

23rd (or March 2nd) - Release Candidate 1

16th - Release Candidate 2
30th - Version 2.0 Available

This is a really rough outline of a delivery schedule.  I know Apache  
is not a machine and we're about community.  My hope is that we as a  
community will have a common goal to work towards and that a schedule  
will help guide us.  If we end up missing the dates because we're not  
there then so be it.  I think a good piece of software is worth the  
wait but I really want us to hold our heads high when people look at  
our stack compared to other alternatives.

In order to achieve these goals we'll need to get cracking on an EE  
5.0 release quickly.  It looks like Dain has been getting 1.2 ready  
with lots of help and I'm hoping that we'll be able to branch trunk  
in to a 1.2 branch this Friday.  It will be awesome for folks to get  
a 1.2 in their hands for production use as well as a milestone on  
Java EE 5.0 in December.  I'd like to get the EE 5.0 work going in  
trunk (best option) or an official branch *(least desireable) this  
Friday.  Either way I'd like to officially kick off the Drive to Five !

Are you ready ?

Matt Hogstrom

"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat all day."

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