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From Jeff Genender <>
Subject Re: The Drive to Five
Date Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:36:56 GMT

Paul McMahan wrote:
> For my part I would like to help with the Tomcat v6 integration.  I've
> looked at the Tomcat work that Jeff did for Geronimo 1.x and am
> hopeful that we can borrow from that design.  I've been lurking on
> dev@tomcat and they're marching toward a v6 release which is currently
> in alpha (about to tag a 6.0.2, I think).

Great me if you have any questions or need a little help.


> Best wishes,
> Paul
> On 11/15/06, Matt Hogstrom <> wrote:
>> I've been noodling over our Java EE 5.0 release of Geronimo and had
>> some ideas I wanted to share.
>> Given that the J2EE space is highly competitive I would love to see
>> us have a Java EE 5.0 implementation out before Java One.  We might
>> not be the first on the block but we'll be in the pack and that will
>> be huge for us in terms of showing we came from behind with J2EE 1.4
>> a few years late and now were on a par with our other Open Source
>> projects in terms of having software available.  The other cool
>> features like plugins will simply set us apart.
>> My personal goal is to work towards a full release of Apache Geronimo
>> 2.0 (perhaps it should be 5.0 :)  available around the end of March
>> in 2007.  In order to have a version available by that date we need
>> to deliver some milestones earlier so we can get user feedback, tweak
>> the server and fix some bugs.  So here is my thinking, let me know
>> how this sounds to you.
>> December
>> 22nd - Release Milestone 1  this release would include:
>>    Java 1.5 as the base JDK
>>    JSP 2.1 (Jetty and Tomcat)
>>    JSF 1.2
>>    Java Mail
>>    JTA 1.1
>>    JMS 1.1 (Active MQ 4)
>>    JPA (Open JPA)
>>    EJB 2.1 (Open EJB 2.3/2?)
>>    JSTL
>> This release would not be certified but would be an incremental
>> version for people to noodle on
>> January
>> 26th - Release Milestone 2
>>    Add EJB 3.0 in its current form (need David's input on this)
>>    JAXB
>>    JEE Mgmt 1.1
>>    Web Services 1.2 (perhaps the Axis guys or Celtixfire folks have
>> some thoughts on this)
>> February
>> 23rd (or March 2nd) - Release Candidate 1
>> March
>> 16th - Release Candidate 2
>> 30th - Version 2.0 Available
>> This is a really rough outline of a delivery schedule.  I know Apache
>> is not a machine and we're about community.  My hope is that we as a
>> community will have a common goal to work towards and that a schedule
>> will help guide us.  If we end up missing the dates because we're not
>> there then so be it.  I think a good piece of software is worth the
>> wait but I really want us to hold our heads high when people look at
>> our stack compared to other alternatives.
>> In order to achieve these goals we'll need to get cracking on an EE
>> 5.0 release quickly.  It looks like Dain has been getting 1.2 ready
>> with lots of help and I'm hoping that we'll be able to branch trunk
>> in to a 1.2 branch this Friday.  It will be awesome for folks to get
>> a 1.2 in their hands for production use as well as a milestone on
>> Java EE 5.0 in December.  I'd like to get the EE 5.0 work going in
>> trunk (best option) or an official branch *(least desireable) this
>> Friday.  Either way I'd like to officially kick off the Drive to Five !
>> Are you ready ?
>> Matt Hogstrom
>> "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
>> Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat all day."

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