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From "Christopher M. Cardona" <>
Subject Re: The Drive to Five
Date Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:44:56 GMT
Nice work Matt! I agree that JEE 5 implementation for Geronimo is 
essential to make us very competitive. Seeing the dates for our possible 
releases will definitely guide us developers on what to shoot for and 
also give our users an idea on what to expect from Geronimo in the next 
few months.

Best wishes,

Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> I've been noodling over our Java EE 5.0 release of Geronimo and had 
> some ideas I wanted to share.
> Given that the J2EE space is highly competitive I would love to see us 
> have a Java EE 5.0 implementation out before Java One.  We might not 
> be the first on the block but we'll be in the pack and that will be 
> huge for us in terms of showing we came from behind with J2EE 1.4 a 
> few years late and now were on a par with our other Open Source 
> projects in terms of having software available.  The other cool 
> features like plugins will simply set us apart.
> My personal goal is to work towards a full release of Apache Geronimo 
> 2.0 (perhaps it should be 5.0 :)  available around the end of March in 
> 2007.  In order to have a version available by that date we need to 
> deliver some milestones earlier so we can get user feedback, tweak the 
> server and fix some bugs.  So here is my thinking, let me know how 
> this sounds to you.
> December
> 22nd - Release Milestone 1  this release would include:
>   Java 1.5 as the base JDK
>   JSP 2.1 (Jetty and Tomcat)
>   JSF 1.2
>   Java Mail
>   JTA 1.1
>   JMS 1.1 (Active MQ 4)
>   JPA (Open JPA)
>   EJB 2.1 (Open EJB 2.3/2?)
>   JSTL
> This release would not be certified but would be an incremental 
> version for people to noodle on
> January
> 26th - Release Milestone 2
>   Add EJB 3.0 in its current form (need David's input on this)
>   JAXB
>   JEE Mgmt 1.1
>   Web Services 1.2 (perhaps the Axis guys or Celtixfire folks have 
> some thoughts on this)
> February
> 23rd (or March 2nd) - Release Candidate 1
> March
> 16th - Release Candidate 2
> 30th - Version 2.0 Available
> This is a really rough outline of a delivery schedule.  I know Apache 
> is not a machine and we're about community.  My hope is that we as a 
> community will have a common goal to work towards and that a schedule 
> will help guide us.  If we end up missing the dates because we're not 
> there then so be it.  I think a good piece of software is worth the 
> wait but I really want us to hold our heads high when people look at 
> our stack compared to other alternatives.
> In order to achieve these goals we'll need to get cracking on an EE 
> 5.0 release quickly.  It looks like Dain has been getting 1.2 ready 
> with lots of help and I'm hoping that we'll be able to branch trunk in 
> to a 1.2 branch this Friday.  It will be awesome for folks to get a 
> 1.2 in their hands for production use as well as a milestone on Java 
> EE 5.0 in December.  I'd like to get the EE 5.0 work going in trunk 
> (best option) or an official branch *(least desireable) this Friday.  
> Either way I'd like to officially kick off the Drive to Five !
> Are you ready ?
> Matt Hogstrom
> "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
> Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat all day."

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