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From Jeff Genender <>
Subject Re: The Drive to Five
Date Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:07:19 GMT
Rally round the flag...

I really like these dates and it gives us something to shoot for.  These
seem very reasonable to me.

But..."Drive to Five"?  Reminds me of my 2 hours commute ;-)  hehe...

great stuff!!

Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> I've been noodling over our Java EE 5.0 release of Geronimo and had some
> ideas I wanted to share.
> Given that the J2EE space is highly competitive I would love to see us
> have a Java EE 5.0 implementation out before Java One.  We might not be
> the first on the block but we'll be in the pack and that will be huge
> for us in terms of showing we came from behind with J2EE 1.4 a few years
> late and now were on a par with our other Open Source projects in terms
> of having software available.  The other cool features like plugins will
> simply set us apart.
> My personal goal is to work towards a full release of Apache Geronimo
> 2.0 (perhaps it should be 5.0 :)  available around the end of March in
> 2007.  In order to have a version available by that date we need to
> deliver some milestones earlier so we can get user feedback, tweak the
> server and fix some bugs.  So here is my thinking, let me know how this
> sounds to you.
> December
> 22nd - Release Milestone 1  this release would include:
>   Java 1.5 as the base JDK
>   JSP 2.1 (Jetty and Tomcat)
>   JSF 1.2
>   Java Mail
>   JTA 1.1
>   JMS 1.1 (Active MQ 4)
>   JPA (Open JPA)
>   EJB 2.1 (Open EJB 2.3/2?)
>   JSTL
> This release would not be certified but would be an incremental version
> for people to noodle on
> January
> 26th - Release Milestone 2
>   Add EJB 3.0 in its current form (need David's input on this)
>   JAXB
>   JEE Mgmt 1.1
>   Web Services 1.2 (perhaps the Axis guys or Celtixfire folks have some
> thoughts on this)
> February
> 23rd (or March 2nd) - Release Candidate 1
> March
> 16th - Release Candidate 2
> 30th - Version 2.0 Available
> This is a really rough outline of a delivery schedule.  I know Apache is
> not a machine and we're about community.  My hope is that we as a
> community will have a common goal to work towards and that a schedule
> will help guide us.  If we end up missing the dates because we're not
> there then so be it.  I think a good piece of software is worth the wait
> but I really want us to hold our heads high when people look at our
> stack compared to other alternatives.
> In order to achieve these goals we'll need to get cracking on an EE 5.0
> release quickly.  It looks like Dain has been getting 1.2 ready with
> lots of help and I'm hoping that we'll be able to branch trunk in to a
> 1.2 branch this Friday.  It will be awesome for folks to get a 1.2 in
> their hands for production use as well as a milestone on Java EE 5.0 in
> December.  I'd like to get the EE 5.0 work going in trunk (best option)
> or an official branch *(least desireable) this Friday.  Either way I'd
> like to officially kick off the Drive to Five !
> Are you ready ?
> Matt Hogstrom
> "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
> Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat all day."

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