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From Sachin Patel <>
Subject Re: The Drive to Five
Date Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:59:14 GMT
One of the big holes, is providing tooling support for JEE 5.  I'm  
not sure how much JEE 5 support WTP will have by March.  So for those  
looking for areas to help out, this would be a great place to look to  
help Geronimo indirectly.  It would be a huge success not only to  
have JEE 5 server, but have a solution for JEE developer's so they  
can use our Eclipse integration with WTP for their development.

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On Nov 15, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:

> I've been noodling over our Java EE 5.0 release of Geronimo and had  
> some ideas I wanted to share.
> Given that the J2EE space is highly competitive I would love to see  
> us have a Java EE 5.0 implementation out before Java One.  We might  
> not be the first on the block but we'll be in the pack and that  
> will be huge for us in terms of showing we came from behind with  
> J2EE 1.4 a few years late and now were on a par with our other Open  
> Source projects in terms of having software available.  The other  
> cool features like plugins will simply set us apart.
> My personal goal is to work towards a full release of Apache  
> Geronimo 2.0 (perhaps it should be 5.0 :)  available around the end  
> of March in 2007.  In order to have a version available by that  
> date we need to deliver some milestones earlier so we can get user  
> feedback, tweak the server and fix some bugs.  So here is my  
> thinking, let me know how this sounds to you.
> December
> 22nd - Release Milestone 1  this release would include:
>   Java 1.5 as the base JDK
>   JSP 2.1 (Jetty and Tomcat)
>   JSF 1.2
>   Java Mail
>   JTA 1.1
>   JMS 1.1 (Active MQ 4)
>   JPA (Open JPA)
>   EJB 2.1 (Open EJB 2.3/2?)
>   JSTL
> This release would not be certified but would be an incremental  
> version for people to noodle on
> January
> 26th - Release Milestone 2
>   Add EJB 3.0 in its current form (need David's input on this)
>   JAXB
>   JEE Mgmt 1.1
>   Web Services 1.2 (perhaps the Axis guys or Celtixfire folks have  
> some thoughts on this)
> February
> 23rd (or March 2nd) - Release Candidate 1
> March
> 16th - Release Candidate 2
> 30th - Version 2.0 Available
> This is a really rough outline of a delivery schedule.  I know  
> Apache is not a machine and we're about community.  My hope is that  
> we as a community will have a common goal to work towards and that  
> a schedule will help guide us.  If we end up missing the dates  
> because we're not there then so be it.  I think a good piece of  
> software is worth the wait but I really want us to hold our heads  
> high when people look at our stack compared to other alternatives.
> In order to achieve these goals we'll need to get cracking on an EE  
> 5.0 release quickly.  It looks like Dain has been getting 1.2 ready  
> with lots of help and I'm hoping that we'll be able to branch trunk  
> in to a 1.2 branch this Friday.  It will be awesome for folks to  
> get a 1.2 in their hands for production use as well as a milestone  
> on Java EE 5.0 in December.  I'd like to get the EE 5.0 work going  
> in trunk (best option) or an official branch *(least desireable)  
> this Friday.  Either way I'd like to officially kick off the Drive  
> to Five !
> Are you ready ?
> Matt Hogstrom
> "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
> Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat all day."


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