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From David Jencks <>
Subject Re: [Results] Priorities for 1.2
Date Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:49:53 GMT

On Oct 18, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:

> On Oct 18, 2006, at 12:24 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>> On Oct 17, 2006, at 11:02 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>> On Oct 10, 2006, at 8:28 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>>>> Thanks Alan  ...  I figured that was the plan but thought I  
>>>> should ask than assume :)
>>>> Jencks is encouraging me to fix some of the TranQL problems in  
>>>> TCK so I'm updating my copy to 1.2.  I simply can't wait to  
>>>> start running the TCK :-P
>>> Great.  I'm thinking that we can try to cut a real release by the  
>>> end of this month and run it through the TCK wringer.  What does  
>>> everyone think?
>> I was thinking more in terms of getting the tck to pass and then  
>> cutting a release.  Otherwise we run the risk of having months of  
>> work on 2 codebases to get the tck to pass.  Experience has shown  
>> me that we can't apply fixes to 2 codebases very well.
> Good point.  Unfortunately the TCK licensing prevents us from  
> providing an estimate on when this will happen.
>> To me the main open question about 1.2 is whether we can certify  
>> on j2ee 1.4 with jee5 spec libraries.  If so it is fairly simple  
>> to include jee5 preview features.  If not we are going to have to  
>> jump through a lot of hoops to demonstrate any jee5  
>> functionality.  I haven't heard back from Geir with any news from  
>> sun on this question.
> Can you explain your comment about "we are going to have to jump  
> through a lot of hoops to demonstrate any jee5 functionality"?  It  
> sounds scary.

Yup, I'm worried.  Lets take a simple example -- the tx manager.  To  
do jpa according to spec, we need a jta 1.1 spec jar.  It's possible  
to swap tx manager impls using the module/config aliasing, but I  
don't see a way to make this easy for users other than shipping 2  
separate servers, one j2ee 1.4 w/no jee5 stuff and one uncertified  
jee5 server.  Shipping twice as many servers would strain our  
resources as far as keeping track of so many zips.

david jencks
> Regards,
> Alan
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