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Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 06:36:49 -0400
From: "Davanum Srinivas" <davanum@gmail.com>
Reply-To: dims@apache.org
To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: Geronimo Plugins project (Re: Where to develop plugins (was: Re: JPA
 Plugin patch))
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Just like we have a "Apache Geronimo Development Tools Subproject" why
can't we have a "Apache Geronimo Plugins Subproject"? and grant folks
working on plugins karma there if karma is the issue.

My 2 cents...Forking community is not good. We should try to encourage
people to work here especially new folks. If i had not gotten the red
carpet from cocoon folks back in 2001, i'd never have made it as a
Apache committer. If they had told me to open a new sf.net project
with my addons that would have been the end of the road for me. I am
greatly indebted to folks like Stefano who gave me a jump start.

-- dims

On 9/1/06, David Blevins <david.blevins@visi.com> wrote:
>
> On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote:
>
> > Re: developers developing plugins - you're certainly right, we're not
> > developing one monolithic codebase with all the features one could
> > dream of. It's impossible and I understand why people could develop
> > their plugins outside. They simply don't have necessary karma to do it
> > here. That's a very important matter I've not thought of before.
> >
> > What I was not happy with was you as a Geronimo committer who's been
> > doing plugin development outside. Now, when I think about it a bit
> > more I think I get the gist of it - you couldn't work with your
> > buddies, actually, they couldn't work as easily as they can do outside
> > - the rest of the jpa plugin team don't have the karma to do it here.
> > Got it and have to think about it a little to let my mind settle.
>
> A major part of my moral compass on situations like this is, "what
> signal
> does this send to the aspiring <ProjectName> developers out there?"
>
>
> Imagine a hundred developers excited about the idea of developing
> plugins
> for Geronimo.  How do my actions and attitudes in this situation affect
> them and their excitement and what does it tell them about how they
> might
> be perceived by me?  Am I ultimately bringing them closer or scaring
> them
> away?
>
> The answers are of course harder.
>
> -David
>
>


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Davanum Srinivas : http://www.wso2.net (Oxygen for Web Service Developers)