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From Bill Dudney <>
Subject Re: console & deployer dependencies
Date Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:18:24 GMT
Hi Aaron,

Thanks for the response.

As to the question; IMO the 'right' thing to do is separate out the  
interfaces. But practically speaking is that reasonable? Seems like  
that is a huge task for not much gain (unless I'm missing something  
from a future expected use discussion that I missed).

Now making sure I understood what you said the cause of the error  
message is. Since the jetty-deployer is 'provided' scope it is not  
added explicitly to the class loader for the console. The jetty- 
deloyer has the interface and impl for JettyWebAppContext. Since the  
jar that this interface is in is not explicitly added to the  
console's class path (because of 'provided' if I understand  
correctly) it barfs.

However, if we were to separate the interfaces of 'jetty-deployer'  
from the implementation classes we could put an explicit reference  
into the console to the interfaces and leave the implementation as  

Please fix my lack of understanding :-)

Thanks again,


On Sep 4, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:

> It's actually the proxy manager that produces those messages.  It
> means that the console asked for a proxy to some GBean, and some of
> the interfaces implemented by that GBean weren't available in the
> caller's (the console's) class loader.
> It would be nice to have a larger discussion about how to handle this.
> For example, do we package all management interfaces in separate JARs
> from the core libraries (Jetty, Tomcat, ActiveMQ, etc.) so that the
> console can add only the interfaces to its class loader?  Or are we OK
> with the console just adding the full implementation JARs for
> everything to its class path?
> Thanks,
>     Aaron
> On 9/4/06, Bill Dudney <> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> The consoles (tomcat & jetty) are spewing warning messages like this;
>> 08:00:18,511 WARN  [BasicProxyManager] Could not load interface
>> org.apache.geronimo.jetty.JettyWebAppContext in provided ClassLoader
>> for org.apache.geronimo.configs/welcome-jetty/1.2-SNAPSHOT/car?
>> J2EEApplication=null,j2eeType=WebModule,name=org.apache.geronimo.conf 
>> igs
>> /welcome-jetty/1.2-SNAPSHOT/car
>> To fix it we can simply remove the <scope>provided</scope> from the
>> <artifactId>{jetty,tomcat}-deployer</artifactId> dependencies in the
>> webconsole-{jetty,tomcat}/pom.xml.
>> Could someone who knows more about the console than me please review
>> the patch (GERONIMO-2344.bdudney-2.patch) here;
>> And apply it if it makes sense?
>> Thanks!
>> -bd-

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