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From Dain Sundstrom <>
Subject [Summary] Release Early, Release Often
Date Sat, 09 Sep 2006 01:55:21 GMT
This has been a great discussion and a lot of important issues have  
been raised.  We don't seem to have a consensus just yet, but I think  
we have made good progress toward one.  I've snipped out the  
highlights of the discussion below:

On Sep 6, 2006, at 12:40 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
> I've heard several people talk about functions that they would like  
> to see included in 1.2:  Yoko, Java 5, JPA integration, clustering,  
> GShell, pluggable JACC (may be already there), CMP for JPA,  
> Usability improvements (esp. web console), performance  
> improvements, etc...   What of these capabilities do we as a  
> community feel are critical to be competitive?

On Sep 6, 2006, at 3:49 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:
> I think that by releasing a 1.2-alpha, that we also start down the  
> path of changing the perception of how quickly we release.  The  
> alpha can also serve to help us get some experience using the m2  
> release plugin so that when it comes time for a non-alpha/beta  
> release that we have confidence in the procedure... and this will  
> give us time to make sure that we have the right configurations and  
> setup to make a release with relative ease.

On Sep 7, 2006, at 6:22 AM, Dave Colasurdo wrote:
> IMHO, trunk is not currently in an Alpha state [....] It seems that  
> trunk is currently in a pre-alpha state and I believe making an  
> occasional unstable/nightly build available would allow users/ 
> developers to get familiar with the latest and greatest functions  
> in trunk without giving the false impression that G1.2 is currently  
> in Alpha state.

On Sep 7, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Hiram Chirino wrote:
> Lets stop trying to feature box so much and try to time box more.  
> [....] If we don't release often then we can't tap our user  
> community to help us QA and provide feedback more often.

On Sep 7, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> I'd be happy to call it a pre-alpha or whatever.

On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:43 PM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
> forward progress and a visible roadmap are what users want to see.  
> Right now Geronimo is headed pretty squarely down the path of  
> updates every six months. IMO, we need to change that and feature  
> packing every release is only going to keep things on that track.

On Sep 7, 2006, at 10:28 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> There are a bunch of jiras/bug fixes that still need to be forward  
> ported to trunk, and the stuff in all_changes.log is still not  
> addressed to a considerable extent.

And finally a comment from an actual user :)

On Sep 6, 2006, at 8:47 AM, Brian Chan wrote:
> I would love to see that as well. I'm waiting on a few fixes (ejb  
> compile leaking) to get on a stable Geronimo release so we can  
> release Liferay 4.2.0 with Geronimo on the enterprise level (thanks  
> to Jeff Grenender for that). Otherwise, will just have to go with a  
> snapshot which doesn't look as good.

I'm going to start a new thread to attempt to gain a consensus on 1.2  
and a separate one for the issue David Jencks raised about dead-1.2.


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