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From Andrus Adamchik <>
Subject Re: Swing console?
Date Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:40:59 GMT
Agreed. Aside from the UI aspect, managing a server from within the  
server process is limited by definition. Ideally there should be a  
rich client and some kind of server-side daemon that can bounce the  
server process and provide access to configuration when the server is  

One other advantage would be an ability to manage multiple instances  
of Geronimo from the single console. From the recent experience the  
lack of this capability is the single biggest concern in migrating to  
Geronimo from commercial app servers.


On Sep 19, 2006, at 2:30 AM, Heinz Drews wrote:

> Chris,
> I agree that with Ajax sufficient functionality can be provided in  
> a webapp.
> My primary argument for a rich client would be as I have said before
> that a webapp requires a running server.  And what should be done if
> there are problems in the configuration which prevents that the server
> starts?
> The console webapp should at least run in a seperate server with
> minimalistic configuration.
> Something which I would prefer anyhow instead of the current  
> situation in G.
> Heinz
> On 9/19/06, Christopher M. Cardona <> wrote:
>> I think this idea can be explored but we should give the current
>> initiative to include Ajax functionality to the console a shot first.
>> There's no doubt that rich clients have their advantages over web  
>> apps
>> (performance and sophisticated widgets to name a few) but I think we
>> have a potential in Ajax to close this gap. It would be nice to  
>> get more
>> comments on this. What do others think?
>> Jason Dillon wrote:
>> > Anyone have any thoughts on using Swing for the console...  
>> instead of
>> > a webapp (which are kinda evil IMO)... and then using webstart to
>> > serve it? Maybe using Netbeans (or that license not ASL friendly)?
>> > I've done some work with NB before at it would be very easy to  
>> create
>> > a rich user experience... and its easy to drop in new modules to
>> > support different aspects of administration and monitoring.
>> >
>> > I dunno.. just a thought...
>> >
>> > --jason
>> >

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