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From Andrus Adamchik <>
Subject Re: Swing console?
Date Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:20:05 GMT
I am +1 on the general idea. For all its flaws, Swing/webstart is  
great for that type of applications. I only suggest replacing  
"instead of a webapp" with "as an alternative to a webapp", at least  
until there is something usable to do a comparison.

Regarding the plugin engine to power it, we had a long discussion on  
Cayenne list what engine to use for the next generation of our ORM  
modeler tool. Our desire was to make it as easy and lightweight as  
possible. We decided to stay away from heavier Eclipse, NetBeans and  
OSGi engines in favor of a more lightweight environment. Our current  
winner is Platonos [2] - the framework jar is only 64k, you can't  
beat that.

I did some prototyping [1] of a Platonos/Swing engine, although  
that's too raw yet. And I can certainly help on the engine side if  
this idea gains traction.



On Sep 17, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:

> Anyone have any thoughts on using Swing for the console... instead  
> of a webapp (which are kinda evil IMO)... and then using webstart  
> to serve it?  Maybe using Netbeans (or that license not ASL  
> friendly)?  I've done some work with NB before at it would be very  
> easy to create a rich user experience... and its easy to drop in  
> new modules to support different aspects of administration and  
> monitoring.
> I dunno.. just a thought...
> --jason

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