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From "Aaron Mulder" <ammul...@alumni.princeton.edu>
Subject Re: Geronimo Plugins project (Re: Where to develop plugins
Date Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:22:07 GMT
Well, are there any volunteers to set up the Geronimo plugins project
and migrate all the current ones (directory, examples, possibly
console, etc.) to that?

Thanks,
     Aaron

On 9/2/06, Matt Hogstrom <matt@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> Totally agree...with your points.  I was commenting more on why we didn't have it yet.
 I concur
> that The Geronimo Project should be hosting our own set of plugins.  Esp. the Apache
based ones like
> directory and samples.
>
> I hope I didn't go too far into the ditch :)
>
> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > Matt,
> >
> > I guess, we should the leave the offer of a new Geronimo subproject
> > for plugins on the table. The bottom line is *IF* someone wants to
> > develop plugins here, then we can and should set it up at that time.
> > Until then it's status quo. It's not like we have not done this
> > plugins concept before. For example, see the httpd's list/site of
> > community maintained modules (all licenses) here:
> > http://modules.apache.org/
> >
> > We should do as much as possible for people who wish to engage and cut
> > our losses if people come up with lame reasons not to engage or don't
> > wish to work within the bounds of an ASF sponsored project.
> >
> > Aaron, or anyone else for that matter can work where they want. We
> > can't force anyone to work here. All we can do is thank them for the
> > work done here so far and wish them best to continue elsewhere.
> >
> > thanks,
> > dims
> >
> > On 9/2/06, Matt Hogstrom <matt@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> >> I think this is what most people want.  I can't speak for Aaron but I
> >> think he wants to build some
> >> plugins that includes LGPL code.  IIRC he felt that it was too much
> >> work for him to build and
> >> maintain the two different sites and specifically said he was going to
> >> do it elsewhere for the
> >> licensing issue.  No one else has stepped up in the community to put
> >> the alternate site together.
> >>
> >> I agree it is unfortunate and not good for the community but the
> >> community lacks the resources /
> >> interest to do both.
> >>
> >> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >> > Just like we have a "Apache Geronimo Development Tools Subproject" why
> >> > can't we have a "Apache Geronimo Plugins Subproject"? and grant folks
> >> > working on plugins karma there if karma is the issue.
> >> >
> >> > My 2 cents...Forking community is not good. We should try to encourage
> >> > people to work here especially new folks. If i had not gotten the red
> >> > carpet from cocoon folks back in 2001, i'd never have made it as a
> >> > Apache committer. If they had told me to open a new sf.net project
> >> > with my addons that would have been the end of the road for me. I am
> >> > greatly indebted to folks like Stefano who gave me a jump start.
> >> >
> >> > -- dims
> >> >
> >> > On 9/1/06, David Blevins <david.blevins@visi.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Re: developers developing plugins - you're certainly right, we're
> >> not
> >> >> > developing one monolithic codebase with all the features one could
> >> >> > dream of. It's impossible and I understand why people could develop
> >> >> > their plugins outside. They simply don't have necessary karma
to
> >> do it
> >> >> > here. That's a very important matter I've not thought of before.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What I was not happy with was you as a Geronimo committer who's
been
> >> >> > doing plugin development outside. Now, when I think about it a
bit
> >> >> > more I think I get the gist of it - you couldn't work with your
> >> >> > buddies, actually, they couldn't work as easily as they can do
> >> outside
> >> >> > - the rest of the jpa plugin team don't have the karma to do it
> >> here.
> >> >> > Got it and have to think about it a little to let my mind settle.
> >> >>
> >> >> A major part of my moral compass on situations like this is, "what
> >> >> signal
> >> >> does this send to the aspiring <ProjectName> developers out there?"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Imagine a hundred developers excited about the idea of developing
> >> >> plugins
> >> >> for Geronimo.  How do my actions and attitudes in this situation
> >> affect
> >> >> them and their excitement and what does it tell them about how they
> >> >> might
> >> >> be perceived by me?  Am I ultimately bringing them closer or scaring
> >> >> them
> >> >> away?
> >> >>
> >> >> The answers are of course harder.
> >> >>
> >> >> -David
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

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