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From Jeff Genender <>
Subject Re: Release Early, Release Often
Date Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:55:57 GMT
We kind of discussed this before...

But why not have the automated nightly build from trunk?

Jason Dillon wrote:
> I am thinking about an 1.2-alpha release, which does not need to pass
> any tck, but can still be downloaded by folks that want to test their
> apps on the bleeding edge (with out having to build).  While there is
> nothing major from a J2EE perspective in the alpha, a lot has changed,
> or will change very shortly.  Here is a list with comments of new and
> upcoming stuff:
> ActiveMQ 4.1, is about to get committed.
> Derby is about to get upgraded.
> Log4j is about to get upgraded.
> Use of concurrent util is about to get changed to backport-concurrent-util.
> Lets not forget that we changed the build system, which mostly impacts
> development, but also has an impact on the configuration files, and
> plugins... new CAR m2 plugin.  I think it would be really good to get an
> alpha out so that people can easily test and provide feedback.
> New m2 plugin to start/stop Geronimo, soon to have new deploy goals.
> A bunch of bug fixes.
>  * * *
> I think that by releasing a 1.2-alpha, that we also start down the path
> of changing the perception of how quickly we release.  The alpha can
> also serve to help us get some experience using the m2 release plugin so
> that when it comes time for a non-alpha/beta release that we have
> confidence in the procedure... and this will give us time to make sure
> that we have the right configurations and setup to make a release with
> relative ease.
> Also, more of a side effect, by making a new release, it helps control
> the JIRA roadmap, right now 1.2 is filled with a bunch of build system
> related fluff and other bits...
> I think that we have enough changes (or soon to change in the next days
> or so) to warrant an alpha.  I don't see any reason why not to... we
> don't need to spend days/weeks to ensure the TCK passes, because we
> don't need to run it.  It should be sufficient to vote on an alpha and
> then cut the release, which should be easy with the maven release
> plugin, and even easier with my gpg-sign'ing mojo to sign and upload all
> artifacts.
> I believe that having this alpha out will benefit our community, showing
> that we are going to start releasing more often, give people a chance to
> provide feedback more often an earlier.
> I certainly do not expect any production customers to use this, but I do
> expect that app developers will, so they can ready their apps for
> deployment on the platform.  We will clearly label this as an alpha
> release, and clear state that it has not been TCK certified.
> I don't see any downside to cutting a release off of trunk soonish, in
> the next week or so.
> --jason
> On Sep 6, 2006, at 9:13 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>> On Sep 5, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
>>> According to our STATUS file, our last feature release (1.1) was on
>>> 2006-06-26 which is about 2.5 months ago.  I'm not sure exactly what
>>> we have in trunk right now, but I'd guess we most likely have enough
>>> to do a release right now.   I'm going to spend a few hours today
>>> browsing the JIRAs and SVN logs and compile a list of the features we
>>> have in trunk right now. Anyways, I'll let you know what I find and
>>> we can figure out what we want to do.
>> I'd be interested to hear more concretely what's in Geronimo trunk,
>> OpenEJB 2.2, etc that's not in 1.1.1...
>> --kevan

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