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From Matt Hogstrom <>
Subject Re: Geronimo Plugins project (Re: Where to develop plugins (was: Re: JPA Plugin patch))
Date Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:50:00 GMT
I think this is what most people want.  I can't speak for Aaron but I think he wants to build
plugins that includes LGPL code.  IIRC he felt that it was too much work for him to build
maintain the two different sites and specifically said he was going to do it elsewhere for
licensing issue.  No one else has stepped up in the community to put the alternate site together.

I agree it is unfortunate and not good for the community but the community lacks the resources
interest to do both.

Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> Just like we have a "Apache Geronimo Development Tools Subproject" why
> can't we have a "Apache Geronimo Plugins Subproject"? and grant folks
> working on plugins karma there if karma is the issue.
> My 2 cents...Forking community is not good. We should try to encourage
> people to work here especially new folks. If i had not gotten the red
> carpet from cocoon folks back in 2001, i'd never have made it as a
> Apache committer. If they had told me to open a new project
> with my addons that would have been the end of the road for me. I am
> greatly indebted to folks like Stefano who gave me a jump start.
> -- dims
> On 9/1/06, David Blevins <> wrote:
>> On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote:
>> > Re: developers developing plugins - you're certainly right, we're not
>> > developing one monolithic codebase with all the features one could
>> > dream of. It's impossible and I understand why people could develop
>> > their plugins outside. They simply don't have necessary karma to do it
>> > here. That's a very important matter I've not thought of before.
>> >
>> > What I was not happy with was you as a Geronimo committer who's been
>> > doing plugin development outside. Now, when I think about it a bit
>> > more I think I get the gist of it - you couldn't work with your
>> > buddies, actually, they couldn't work as easily as they can do outside
>> > - the rest of the jpa plugin team don't have the karma to do it here.
>> > Got it and have to think about it a little to let my mind settle.
>> A major part of my moral compass on situations like this is, "what
>> signal
>> does this send to the aspiring <ProjectName> developers out there?"
>> Imagine a hundred developers excited about the idea of developing
>> plugins
>> for Geronimo.  How do my actions and attitudes in this situation affect
>> them and their excitement and what does it tell them about how they
>> might
>> be perceived by me?  Am I ultimately bringing them closer or scaring
>> them
>> away?
>> The answers are of course harder.
>> -David

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