Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 88846 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2006 22:12:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Aug 2006 22:12:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 21224 invoked by uid 500); 22 Aug 2006 22:12:05 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 21183 invoked by uid 500); 22 Aug 2006 22:12:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 21172 invoked by uid 99); 22 Aug 2006 22:12:04 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:12:04 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [209.181.65.237] (HELO sun.savoirtech.com) (209.181.65.237) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:12:03 -0700 Received: from [206.197.197.22] ([206.197.197.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by sun.savoirtech.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7MMBank019420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:11:36 -0600 Message-ID: <44EB81C0.1030909@apache.org> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:14:24 -0600 From: Jeff Genender Reply-To: jgenender@apache.org Organization: Apache Geronimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: bootstrap.bat for windows users References: <2E6AF253-E0E4-4D2C-BD35-509E0D12B2E5@planet57.com> <4AE86F20-6760-462C-AB11-A33D5CEB3FA9@planet57.com> <1b5bfeb50608221415w17a534c2wf36ac9cc4afdb624@mail.gmail.com> <816FDD7D-D8D0-4BAC-A733-C122694D41AB@planet57.com> <1b5bfeb50608221501k33bd63b3g450d1e4335f9eae7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1b5bfeb50608221501k33bd63b3g450d1e4335f9eae7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.6 (2005-12-07) on sun.savoirtech.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1709/Tue Aug 22 13:34:50 2006 on sun.savoirtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Old-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.1 required=5.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Jacek Laskowski wrote: > On 8/22/06, Jason Dillon wrote: >> I meant to just use Ant... if we end up using antrun from the >> bootstrap it will end up causing other antrun's to fail later on >> since some of them need additional dependencies... which won't work. > > Oh, didn't think about it. Are you really suggesting to use Ant beside > Maven? It's getting too complicated to just get started. When do you > think bootstrap will go away? Is it worth to talk about it any more? > > Jacek > I hope this is not taken negatively...as it is not meant that way... I think it is worth talking about, especially when we think bootstrap will go away. I respect Jason's disdain for Windows, but it also is the most used and most popular OS...which means it probably represents a large base of our community. :) IMHO, if we are to continue with the bootstrap, then I think it is reasonable to support both *nix and Windows. No...I am not volunteering as I have other things on my plate, but I think if Mark D. wants to take on supporting the Windows side, I cannot find a negative in this. What I do not think is reasonable is forcing any user to have to install Cygwin (even though I love it) to build G on Windows. Cygwin is a fairly large install and I have been at companies where one is forbidden to have it on corporate machines. So, my point is, if the bootstrap is short lived, then disregard my opinion ;-) But if it's gonna be with us for a while, lets allow the Windows bat version if Mark is willing to support it...or find something (like ant?) that will make it work on our most popular OS systems. Jeff