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From Matt Hogstrom <>
Subject Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues
Date Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:04:52 GMT
Excellent...thanks David...good ideas as well about the links.

David Jencks wrote:
> On Aug 18, 2006, at 8:28 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>> All,
>> For those wondering where the Geronimo 1.1.1 release is at here is a 
>> quick summary and battle plan.
>> John Sisson discovered that we have several DTD and XSDs included in 
>> our build that are copies of Sun's original material.  The copyright 
>> in the material seems to indicate that we cannot redistribute the 
>> content.  Unfortunately, as Geir has pointed out, that there is no 
>> clear way to interpret the license and we should manually generate 
>> these to stay legal and avoid any appearance of impropriety.
>> The documents in question reside in both the distribution of the 
>> source as well as the server itself.  It appears that other open 
>> source and commercial vendors do distribute these documents in their 
>> original form but the ASF does not have a clear indication that we can 
>> follow this same practice.  You can find the documents in 
>> $G_BUILD_TREE/modules/j2ee-schema/src/* as well as the distributions 
>> in $G_DIST/schema/* directories.
>> The documents are identified in JIRA 
>> I'd like to ask anyone that has some spare moments to help out with 
>> putting these together. Basically, you need to refer to the 
>> appropriate specification and type in the XML exactly like it is 
>> represented for actual elements and either omit or paraphrase the 
>> information embedded in comments so we do not violate Sun's copyright.
>> I know this is frustrating but for their own reasons Sun has imposed 
>> this unfriendly copyright and we need to abide by it.  We are 
>> protecting The ASF, Geronimo and our users.
>> If you are working on a document please update the above JIRA to 
>> indicate it is partial so others can see what remains.  Please check 
>> the new schemas into their respective replacements.  When the 
>> replacements are complete we'll build a new distribution and run it 
>> through a full CTS test to validate our work.
>> Please also consider working with a partner so you can cross check 
>> each other's work.
>> Thanks in advance for your patience and help with this important issue.
>> Also, if others have input into the process that I have missed please 
>> provide it as well.
>> Thanks to John and Geir for discovering and mediating on this issue.
> I wrote some code that compares xml documents for identical content 
> that's in several xmlbeans related tests.  I'll look into write a test 
> class that:
> 1. checks that you are online
> 2. if so, checks that each of our j2ee 1.4 schemas match the ones 
> available from the sun web site 
> (etc)
> I'll have to modify the code a bit so it ignores differenences between 
> documentation.
> This won't help for the earlier dtds.
> Also, I think we should include in our versions the link to the sun 
> website on which the fully commented versions are available.
> thanks
> david jencks

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