Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 7832 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2006 14:23:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Jul 2006 14:23:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 47265 invoked by uid 500); 10 Jul 2006 14:23:01 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 47211 invoked by uid 500); 10 Jul 2006 14:23:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 47199 invoked by uid 99); 10 Jul 2006 14:23:00 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:23:00 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of kevan.miller@gmail.com designates 64.233.184.231 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.184.231] (HELO wr-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.184.231) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:22:49 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so1666757wra for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:22:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=j/HqBiYa4aoTcuHNrdhcZ9NyQQPZQGI7BU27rTX7kE7Q7UZmJODeIN7bpgoZvwpnoJVswYycNOUwwXFjWxbtaACinx1w5Q8gxixS54jBsiOfkrQ2kgIHfHXsPeOesGo9uuKG9epmtybLCIBwtbbKFT803W0SL7m362MIkt75+HM= Received: by 10.54.150.2 with SMTP id x2mr5107244wrd; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?9.37.214.127? ( [129.33.49.251]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 11sm15076384wrl.2006.07.10.07.22.19; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <1b5bfeb50607091512p11fd4d24xa9b6b9eafcdc7437@mail.gmail.com> <1b5bfeb50607100216h3102359dn96ed647ad3ab502@mail.gmail.com> <41AE85DF-02D1-4852-9482-8772CA26AF11@gmail.com> <8C214716-8CDF-426E-836B-8B1CA1E0748A@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-287963821 Message-Id: From: Kevan Miller Subject: Re: [Vote] Geronimo Eclipse Plugin v1.1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:22:19 -0400 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --Apple-Mail-2-287963821 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jul 10, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Sachin Patel wrote: > Ok thanks for the correction. So what classifies a veto? IIUC, only code (i.e. a commit) can be vetoed. If any license/legal- type issues are uncovered in the release, then that's probably a stop- release problem (effectively a veto). I think our goal should be to avoid releasing with any outstanding -1 votes, but it's not a requirement... --kevan > > On Jul 10, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: > >> >> On Jul 10, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Sachin Patel wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2006, at 5:16 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote: >>> >>>> On 7/10/06, Sachin Patel wrote: >>>> >>>>> No critical reason, just a time frame on when I'll upload the >>>>> driver to the >>>>> distribution size if no -1's have been casted. >>>> >>>> That's interesting...would that mean that if Geronimo 1.2 is >>>> about to >>>> release only 72 hours matters or 3+ votes? >>> >>> Is it required that every PMC must vote? If not, then yes, I >>> would think so. A released is only stopped if a -1 is received, >>> not if people abstain from a vote. >> >> No, that's not right. A release is a majority vote. You can't >> "veto" a release with a -1. And, I think, there's no minimum vote >> requirement. Although if you only have 3 +1 votes, then I'd say >> something is probably wrong... 72 hours seems to be considered a >> minimum vote timeframe... I think we had something similar for >> some of the G 1.1 release votes... >> >> --kevan >> >>>> >>>> >>>>> The first one just unzips into your ECLIPSE_HOME. Once >>>>> released, the second >>>>> is the distribution that gets unzipped into the update manager >>>>> site. The >>>>> packaging is a little different. The second one can also be >>>>> tested by >>>>> unzipping anywhere on your filesystem and creating a "local" >>>>> update site to >>>>> it. The site.xml is not really needed to test it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Which one do I need to download >>>>> and what are the steps to test it out? Just unpack to >>>>> $ECLIPSE_HOME >>>>> dir? Just downloaded Eclipse 3.2 and am ready to give it a whirl. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You can start with Eclipse 3.2 but will need to go to the >>>>> update manager to >>>>> add WTP and its requirements. Or you can download the WTP-all >>>>> in one >>>>> package. I'm working as-we speak on a eclipse-plugin FAQ for >>>>> the wiki that >>>>> will contain further detailed info. >>>> >>>> Looking forward to reading it. >>>> >>>> Another question is about the naming - why is the plugin named - >>>> g-eclipse-... nor geronimo-eclipse-...? >>> >>> No reason. I can rename them. Keep in mind these zips are not >>> the primary way of installation and only an alternate, as the >>> recommended approach to installing is through the update manager. >>> >>>> >>>> Jacek >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jacek Laskowski >>>> http://www.laskowski.net.pl >>> >>> >>> -sachin >>> >>> >> > > > -sachin > > --Apple-Mail-2-287963821 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Jul 10, 2006, = at 10:03 AM, Sachin Patel wrote:

Ok thanks = for the correction.=A0 So what classifies a veto?

IIUC, only code (i.e. a = commit) can be vetoed. If any license/legal-type issues are uncovered in = the release, then that's probably a stop-release problem (effectively a = veto). I think our goal should be to avoid releasing with any = outstanding -1 votes, but it's not a requirement...

--kevan


On Jul 10, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Kevan = Miller wrote:


On Jul 10, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Sachin Patel = wrote:


On Jul 10, 2006, at 5:16 AM, Jacek Laskowski = wrote:

On 7/10/06, Sachin Patel <sppatel2@gmail.com> = wrote:

=
No critical reason, just a = time frame on when I'll upload the driver to the
distribution size if no -1's have been casted.
=

That's interesting...would that mean that if = Geronimo 1.2 is about to
release only = 72 hours matters or 3+ votes?

Is it required that every = PMC must vote? If not, then yes, I would think so.=A0 A released is only = stopped if a -1 is received, not if people abstain from a = vote.

No, that's not right. A = release is a majority vote. You can't "veto" a release with a -1. And, I = think, there's no minimum vote requirement. Although if you only have 3 = +1 votes, then I'd say something is probably wrong... =A072 hours seems = to be considered a minimum vote timeframe... I think we had something = similar for some of the G 1.1 release votes...

--kevan=A0



The = first one just unzips into your ECLIPSE_HOME.=A0 Once released, the = second
is the distribution that gets = unzipped into the update manager site.=A0 The
packaging is a little different.=A0 The second one can also be = tested by
unzipping anywhere on your = filesystem and creating a "local" update site to
it.=A0 = The site.xml is not really needed to test it.


Which one do = I need to download
and what are the steps to = test it out? Just unpack to $ECLIPSE_HOME
dir? = Just downloaded Eclipse 3.2 and am ready to give it a whirl.


You can start = with Eclipse 3.2 but will need to go to the update manager to
add WTP and its requirements.=A0 Or you can download the = WTP-all in one
package.=A0 I'm working as-we speak on a = eclipse-plugin FAQ for the wiki that
will contain = further detailed info.

Looking forward to reading = it.

Another question is about the naming - why is the = plugin named -
g-eclipse-... nor = geronimo-eclipse-...?

No reason.=A0 I can rename = them.=A0 Keep in mind these zips are not the primary way of installation = and only an alternate, as the recommended approach to installing is = through the update manager.



--=A0
Jacek = Laskowski
=


-sachin
 =




-sachin
 =


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