Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 19939 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2006 06:32:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 2006 06:32:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 79155 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jul 2006 06:32:10 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 78950 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jul 2006 06:32:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 78939 invoked by uid 99); 19 Jul 2006 06:32:09 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:32:09 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of jrsisson@gmail.com designates 64.233.166.182 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.166.182] (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.182) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:32:08 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id i75so157772pye for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:31:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p0kjBvYFTRtyOORNnQaq32CVV2VZ4QtD/GzoN10jQHvLfXkukC2qGqIdJPmCGAIdKIyAGhlZ+Vy47CCfUtme64PwxVb1NRquri52dismsT14bNRm+fNHdxQI+mOgnprPYQiVpbr5CZX1T8LwAQzhknF6LL1jQt13JTA0sYBpYog= Received: by 10.35.62.19 with SMTP id p19mr569364pyk; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?218.185.73.243? ( [218.185.73.243]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id w25sm376830pyw.2006.07.18.23.31.46; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44BDD1AB.2070908@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:31:07 +1000 From: John Sisson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: GroupId for DayTrader needed. References: <06D34F88-9245-49BC-991C-5FA151B6B812@planet57.com> <44BD3200.5090909@apache.org> <391E0332-4C5F-42D4-A272-E06095D529F5@planet57.com> <44BDAE94.2060109@gmail.com> <21103972-1CFF-44CF-95C2-1A560C8D15C9@planet57.com> In-Reply-To: <21103972-1CFF-44CF-95C2-1A560C8D15C9@planet57.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Man, you have some serious windows scars or you need to ease off on the coffee :-) John Jason Dillon wrote: > Um... blah... lets go back 10 years and give everything 8.3 names with > mad cryptic names in one directory with a slew of meaning-deficient 3 > letter suffixes to tell stuff apart. > > Oh... no... wait, lets create a long file name obfuscation system > using ~[0-9] suffixes on truncated filenames... ya that will be better. > > Or lets just number all files 1-1000000 > > Or how about we generate secure randoms for each file name? > > or... how about lets just put everything into one big sparse file... > > Or we could have a post processor that takes a normal assembly + > config and then truncates everything and adds a metadata descriptor > for resolution. > > No, thats is too much... lets just use one big sparse file... though > secure random file names is starting to grow on me. > > :-P > > --jason > > > On Jul 18, 2006, at 9:01 PM, John Sisson wrote: > >> I have already run into problems with path lengths in the 1.1 branch >> with daytrader now we have moved to 1.1.1-SNAPSHOT. See >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DAYTRADER-6 >> >> Considering the number of developers (and possibly future developers) >> on the windows platform, we should ensure it works. Even if it means >> we have to shorten the names. The groupid and artifactIds are just >> identifiers, you can have nice long descriptions in the pom files if >> you like :-) >> >> John >> >> Jason Dillon wrote: >>> I think the 'samples' bit is not really necessary here. >>> >>> The groupId is just to organize artifacts in the repo. It does not >>> (and should not) represent the full logical structure or package >>> hierarchy of the application/component. >>> >>> But, I also don't think that it makes sense to artificially shorten >>> either just to hack around platform specific issues either. >>> >>> --jason >>> >>> >>> On Jul 18, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Jeff Genender wrote: >>> >>>> I am a big fan of org.apache.geronimo.samples.daytrader. But...are we >>>> leading ourselves down the path of a Windows dir size too big >>>> nightmare? >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>> Jason Dillon wrote: >>>>> Why not give it is own: >>>>> >>>>> org.apache.geronimo.daytrader >>>>> >>>>> --jason >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 18, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Prasad Kashyap wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The DayTrader project needs a consistent groupId for all it's >>>>>> artifacts. Currently, some of it's artifacts are under the >>>>>> "geronimo" >>>>>> groupid while others are under the "org.apache.geronimo" groupid. >>>>>> >>>>>> I discussed this with Matt and we decided to pose this Q to the >>>>>> community. One option is to have a groupId called >>>>>> "org.apache.geronimo.samples" which will be home to daytrader >>>>>> artifacts, other samples we currently have and ones to come. >>>>>> >>>>>> One other thing to consider is the very long artifactId name of some >>>>>> of daytrader's artifacts. An example is something like >>>>>> daytrader-derby-jetty-streamer. When this is coupled with an equally >>>>>> long groupId name, we'll be close to hitting the path limit on >>>>>> windows. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Prasad >>> >>> >> > >