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From John Sisson <>
Subject Re: m2migration branch is available
Date Wed, 05 Jul 2006 02:07:20 GMT

INAL, but sections 10 B-E in their open source contract don't sound 
appropriate for ASF use to me.

We wouldn't want the situation where we have to uninstall it or Apache 
and the development community has to start paying for it after it is 
entrenched into our projects.



Jason Dillon wrote:
> FYI... Perforce may be commercial, but they provide free licenses for 
> qualifying open source usage:
> :-)
> --jason
> On Jul 4, 2006, at 3:50 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>> Jacek,
>> When discussing whether a branch was appropriate, I expressed a
>> concern that it would be difficult to merge changes from this branch
>> to HEAD because SVN seems to have difficulty handling multiple
>> revisions of add/delete/move/copy operations in a single merge (and I
>> understand the M2 restructuring will involve a lot of that).  I've
>> often had problems where something is e.g. removed and then recreated
>> and I try to apply and it refuses claiming that there's something in
>> the way.  The only way to proceed is to manually delete offending
>> directories and then update.  But that won't work for merging from a
>> branch to HEAD -- it would effectively be a revolution operation where
>> we would have to vote to delete HEAD and move the branch to HEAD.
>> Then we lose the bug fixes that have been applied to HEAD and we've
>> been through that before.
>> I'm concerned that you ignored this concern and went ahead with the
>> branch plan.  In fact the only response I got was that perhaps a
>> commercial source control system would be better.  Perhaps that means
>> this should have been an RTC operation so you were forced to address
>> my concern before taking this approach.
>> Thanks,
>>    Aaron
>> On 7/4/06, Jacek Laskowski <> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Just created a branch - m2migration - for all our work pertaining to
>>> the M2 migration of Geronimo build. Everybody's welcome to work on it
>>> *without* RTC on. Revolutionary rules are enabled again! ;-)
>>> The branch is available at
>>> Once we're ready to move a part of the work done in this branch, we'll
>>> create a patch and RTC'ed it to commit to trunk. I believe it will
>>> help those who are reluctant to work on the branch and give a hope not
>>> all is/will be lost ;-)
>>> Just to be clear: anybody who wants to learn M2 tricks and help us
>>> with the migration is welcome. Those who aren't committers can/should
>>> count on me to commit their work (my kids are away on their vacation,
>>> so let's do it before they come back home ;-))
>>> Jacek
>>> -- 
>>> Jacek Laskowski

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