Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 5358 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2006 17:20:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Jun 2006 17:20:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 61157 invoked by uid 500); 29 Jun 2006 17:20:54 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 61124 invoked by uid 500); 29 Jun 2006 17:20:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 61113 invoked by uid 99); 29 Jun 2006 17:20:54 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:20:54 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of rajith77@gmail.com designates 64.233.182.190 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.182.190] (HELO nf-out-0910.google.com) (64.233.182.190) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:20:52 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so95223nfc for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:20:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cIcxHgUypLC8wF+QT9TVaGYlPQKqkS/2NnlaKd5GLYUNOF3Fxh9i0rDpK244wzLeV98UdB2L0hHLm9x45ofFu2Z8zimns0y4AcN/6gh8LhRc6Zy7qdhSL4nmOn180kdiDStNVgJoDxXw1hR4h/hxq0YTwoPrGiXNdXQ/oY/Hd44= Received: by 10.49.72.6 with SMTP id z6mr1834973nfk; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.207.18 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:20:29 -0400 From: "Rajith Attapattu" To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: Dublin - Clustering get-together.... - Thurs aft/eve.. In-Reply-To: <75D0485B-41DD-45DD-8FCD-7EC7A576033A@iq80.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_140432_21000893.1151601629267" References: <44A117BF.8010000@coredevelopers.net> <44A1A81D.9060704@hogstrom.org> <44A1AA29.8030208@coredevelopers.net> <44A22F1F.8020302@gmail.com> <44A28BF9.6030505@coredevelopers.net> <44A29C2C.5070507@apache.org> <44A3DCFF.2000606@mortbay.com> <894C95A1-6E4D-44BF-9705-00B9665DC0E7@apache.org> <75D0485B-41DD-45DD-8FCD-7EC7A576033A@iq80.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N ------=_Part_140432_21000893.1151601629267 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thanks Dain, -rajith On 6/29/06, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > > The link to the paper people are talking about out is here: > > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC10/clustering.html > > -dain > > On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Bill Dudney wrote: > > > Hi Greg, > > > > Hopefully this is early enough for someone to look at. > > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDEV/Caching > > > > It need lots more detail - I have some graphics too but don't have > > time to write them up before meeting so I'll try to get that done > > this afternoon and update the wiki page. > > > > I'll be a bit late but I'll be there. > > > > Looking forward to it. > > > > TTFN, > > > > -bd- > > > > On Jun 29, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Greg Wilkins wrote: > > > >> > >> Jeff, > >> > >> this suggestion is probably too late.... > >> > >> but given the deficiencies of dialin, would it be possible for you > >> to post a short > >> summary of where your work with clustering is at? > >> > >> Is there a page on the(a?) wiki about the approach you are taking? > >> I can see the tomcat clustering page > >> > >> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC11/clustering.html > >> > >> and the overview page > >> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC10/clustering.html > >> > >> but nothing on kluster or the session API > >> > >> cheers > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Jeff Genender wrote:> > >>> Jules Gosnell wrote: > >>>> Guys, > >>>> > >>>> Covalent had to commit to a time - we went for 6:00pm on thursday. > >>>> > >>>> I realise that this may be a little earlier than some of you > >>>> were hoping > >>>> for, but it was the best we could do at short notice - sorry. > >>>> > >>>> One further problem. We were not able to organise conferencing > >>>> facilities. If anyone thinks that they can work around this, > >>>> perhaps via > >>>> skype or something, I would be happy to try to set something up > >>>> - Has > >>>> anyone run a skype conference with 4 or 5 participants before ? > >>>> Would > >>>> you like us to try? > >>>> > >>> > >>> Well, thats ok...thanks for giving a shot. > >>> > >>> I would ask that we bring as much to the lists afterwards as > >>> there are > >>> others who have/are doing considerable work in the clustering > >>> area and > >>> are not able to be there. It would be nice to be engaged in > >>> discussions. Thanks again for trying. > >>> > >>>> Jules > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Jules Gosnell wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Matt Hogstrom wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin > >>>>>>> time. > >>>>>>> 2200 is good from my perspective. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would > >>>>>> be that > >>>>>> people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and > >>>>>> gone home > >>>>>> by then. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How does that sound ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jules > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dain Sundstrom wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Evening you time would be best for me. It looks like there > >>>>>>>> is an 8 > >>>>>>>> hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything > >>>>>>>> after 6pm > >>>>>>>> your time would be good for me (10am here). I can go maybe > >>>>>>>> an hour > >>>>>>>> earlier, but then I will be sleepy. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -dain > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Jeff Genender wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Jules Gosnell wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dain Sundstrom wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> conference can participate? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll look into it. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I would likely be interested too depending on time. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve > >>>>>>>>> (dublin time) > >>>>>>>>> which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can > >>>>>>>>> avoid them. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Jules > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jules > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -dain > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jules Gosnell wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt - I don't think that the problem was with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sponsorship, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but rather > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Covalent > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are simply > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community and you will be driving the meeting. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> That should be cool. Firstly, it has been announced here > >>>>>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>>>>> public list. Secondly, you should consider putting up a few > >>>>>>>>>>> notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who > >>>>>>>>>>> didn't see this. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue. The > >>>>>>>>>>> sponsorship > >>>>>>>>>>> was mud in the water. By mentioning this here the issue is > >>>>>>>>>>> rendered > >>>>>>>>>>> nonexistent. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper > >>>>>>>>>>> notices) the > >>>>>>>>>>> details, such as time and place, as soon as they're > >>>>>>>>>>> figured out. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Jules. And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it > >>>>>>>>>>> can be > >>>>>>>>>>> clarified a bit. > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> #ken P-)} > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ > >>>>>>>>>>> Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> "Millennium hand and shrimp!" > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a > >>>>>>>>> piece of > >>>>>>>>> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole > >>>>>>>>> operating-system > >>>>>>>>> crystallises out around it." > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> /********************************** > >>>>>>>>> * Jules Gosnell > >>>>>>>>> * Partner > >>>>>>>>> * Core Developers Network (Europe) > >>>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>>> * www.coredevelopers.net > >>>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>>> * Open Source Training & Support. > >>>>>>>>> **********************************/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >> > > ------=_Part_140432_21000893.1151601629267 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thanks Dain,

-rajith

On 6/29/06, Dain Sundstrom <dain@iq80.com> wrote:
The link to the paper people are talking about out is here:

http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC10/clustering.html

-dain

On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Bill Dudney wrote:

> Hi Greg,
>
> Hopefully this is early enough for someone to look at.
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxDEV/Caching
>
> It need lots more detail - I have some graphics too but don't have
> time to write them up before meeting so I'll try to get that done
> this afternoon and update the wiki page.
>
> I'll be a bit late but I'll be there.
>
> Looking forward to it.
>
> TTFN,
>
> -bd-
>
> On Jun 29, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Greg Wilkins wrote:
>
>>
>> Jeff,
>>
>> this suggestion is probably too late....
>>
>> but given the deficiencies of dialin, would it be possible for you
>> to post a short
>> summary of where your work with clustering is at?
>>
>> Is there a page on the(a?) wiki about the approach you are taking?
>> I can see the tomcat clustering page
>>
>>   http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC11/clustering.html
>>
>> and the overview page
>>   http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC10/clustering.html
>>
>> but nothing on kluster or the session API
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff Genender wrote:>
>>> Jules Gosnell wrote:
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>> Covalent had to commit to a time - we went for 6:00pm on thursday.
>>>>
>>>> I realise that this may be a little earlier than some of you
>>>> were hoping
>>>> for, but it was the best we could do at short notice - sorry.
>>>>
>>>> One further problem. We were not able to organise conferencing
>>>> facilities. If anyone thinks that they can work around this,
>>>> perhaps via
>>>> skype or something, I would be happy to try to set something up
>>>> - Has
>>>> anyone run a skype conference with 4 or 5 participants before ?
>>>> Would
>>>> you like us to try?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, thats ok...thanks for giving a shot.
>>>
>>> I would ask that we bring as much to the lists afterwards as
>>> there are
>>> others who have/are doing considerable work in the clustering
>>> area and
>>> are not able to be there.  It would be nice to be engaged in
>>> discussions.  Thanks again for trying.
>>>
>>>> Jules
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jules Gosnell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was planning on attending the CeltiXFire BOF at 2100 Dublin
>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>> 2200 is good from my perspective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a little later than I was hoping for - my worry would
>>>>>> be that
>>>>>> people who might otherwise be there will have packed up and
>>>>>> gone home
>>>>>> by then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would rather a slot somewhere between 6:00pm and 9:00pm...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does that sound ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dain Sundstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Evening you time would be best for me.  It looks like there
>>>>>>>> is an 8
>>>>>>>> hour time diff between Dublin and California, so anything
>>>>>>>> after 6pm
>>>>>>>> your time would be good for me (10am here).  I can go maybe
>>>>>>>> an hour
>>>>>>>> earlier, but then I will be sleepy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -dain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeff Genender wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jules Gosnell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dain Sundstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you going to provide a call in line so people not at
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> conference can participate?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll look into it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be interested in using such a feature ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would likely be interested too depending on time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, Jeff - so are there any windows on thurs aft/eve
>>>>>>>>> (dublin time)
>>>>>>>>> which would not suit you ? Let us know, so that we can
>>>>>>>>> avoid them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -dain
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jules Gosnell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt - I don't think that the problem was with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sponsorship,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but  rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exclusion... (maybe I've misunderstood something?).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Covalent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> providing a room and beer. The invitation is open to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community and you will be driving the meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That should be cool.  Firstly, it has been announced here
>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>> public list.  Secondly, you should consider putting up a few
>>>>>>>>>>> notice signs around ApacheCon to catch interested people who
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't see this.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, exclusion and lack of openness was the issue.  The
>>>>>>>>>>> sponsorship
>>>>>>>>>>> was mud in the water.  By mentioning this here the issue is
>>>>>>>>>>> rendered
>>>>>>>>>>> nonexistent.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, you need to post (here and on those paper
>>>>>>>>>>> notices) the
>>>>>>>>>>> details, such as time and place, as soon as they're
>>>>>>>>>>> figured out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Jules.  And thanks for raising this, Matt, so it
>>>>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>>>>> clarified a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> #ken    P-)}
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini  http://Ken.Coar.Org/
>>>>>>>>>>> Author, developer, opinionist       http://Apache-Server.Com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Millennium hand and shrimp!"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a
>>>>>>>>> piece of
>>>>>>>>> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole
>>>>>>>>> operating-system
>>>>>>>>> crystallises out around it."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /**********************************
>>>>>>>>>  * Jules Gosnell
>>>>>>>>>  * Partner
>>>>>>>>>  * Core Developers Network (Europe)
>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>  *    www.coredevelopers.net
>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>  * Open Source Training & Support.
>>>>>>>>>  **********************************/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>


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