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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:30:24 -0400
From: "Hiram Chirino" <hiram@hiramchirino.com>
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+1

On 6/14/06, Dain Sundstrom <dain@iq80.com> wrote:
> I see a lot of whining in this thread an not a lot of coding.  If you
> ask me, if Jeff, John or anyone in the projects feels that we need an
> alternative to the javaplugins site, all they have to do is sit down
> and put together a site.  At that point we have have an open
> discussion on the default link.  We had a nice open discussion about
> the default link a while back and concluded it the javaplugins site
> was fine since there is only one site available, and when this state
> changes, I expect the default to change.
>
> Frankly, I think it is time to separate the talkers from the doers.
>
> -dain
>
> On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>
> > Hiram Chirino wrote:
> >> Hi Jeff,
> >>
> >> All I'm saying is I don't care if IBM puts up
> >> http://www.ibm.com/wasce/plugins, I also don't care if you put up a
> >> http://virtuas.com/geronimo/plugins site.
> >>
> >> Now the default link issue is something else.  Can we point it by
> >> default at some Apache machines by default?  I'm sure Aaron would not
> >> mind, would you?
> >>
> >> We do things like this all the time.  Our maven builds are TOTALLY
> >> dependent on non asf hardware.  If ibiblio or codehaus go down, I
> >> think we would have some serious issues trying to build geronino and
> >> friends.  And I may be wrong but I think Aaron's site was similar in
> >> that it was just providing free hosting for artifacts.  Or an I
> >> wrong?
> >
> > That is a great question.  If Aaron's intention was to make an ibiblio
> > of sorts, this could have been discussed and it may have passed
> > muster.
> >  The key missing component was the discussion ;-)
> >
> > I am surely interested in intent...the goals...the barriers to
> > entry, or
> > lack thereof regarding this site.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jeff
>
>


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Regards,
Hiram

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