Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 86373 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2006 14:32:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Jun 2006 14:32:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 79461 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jun 2006 14:31:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 79112 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jun 2006 14:31:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 79101 invoked by uid 99); 15 Jun 2006 14:31:10 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:31:10 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of ammulder@gmail.com designates 64.233.162.197 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.162.197] (HELO nz-out-0102.google.com) (64.233.162.197) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:31:09 -0700 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id j2so234794nzf for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:30:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=ijZ6DHKMS41Sa/igTl6E4GXbXu09iJpiOa52KJ8yz8T3AkaA4tn6CLnkXG5tFBDuZDyWVyw/EEtl6ZXoW3GYbwX5zoUcRIUoOl/n1Qs6QNCh4vOKn26CpCOOiv1wrwXkF++xa7WgoSNcN/1gfgVFnafP8ogqTkqRVgv73Dbo+Ds= Received: by 10.65.72.15 with SMTP id z15mr464159qbk; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.119.17 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <74e15baa0606150730r4e270daid6a18ddb052039ce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:30:48 -0400 From: "Aaron Mulder" Sender: ammulder@gmail.com To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: [CONSENSUS] Default plugin site (was Re: Frustrations of a Release Manager) In-Reply-To: <44915EA8.6020607@hogstrom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4488B55B.9010302@hogstrom.org> <7b3355cb0606091321i2a6162iba002f6fe0b6e6b4@mail.gmail.com> <4489DD03.7010509@apache.org> <7b3355cb0606091351y676ffe9xf0abad76de80ecf1@mail.gmail.com> <4489E2EC.6050601@apache.org> <4489ED5A.1040000@hogstrom.org> <44909C67.1060104@gmail.com> <44915EA8.6020607@hogstrom.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 159f2dc9a2b0ab17 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 6/15/06, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > +1 Aaron and I will work to make the Apache site work. (We'll need some help from the infra folks :) Um, I'm afraid I need to clarify my position. If the Geronimo community thinks it would be best to create and maintain an Apache site and make it the default, I am certainly fine with that. However, personally, I don't think that's a good idea. I don't see the point in spending all the effort only to create a second site that has a subset of the functionality of the first site (e.g. the same Apache plugins but none of the non-Apache plugins). Also, maintaining one site is enough work and I'm not volunteering to help create or maintain the Apache site, though of course I would be happy to answer questions and give pointers to anyone who's going to do it. Thanks, Aaron > David Blevins wrote: > > Everyone, please read and ACK. > > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:31 PM, John Sisson wrote: > > > >> Hiram, I care if a private or commercial entity has control over the > >> default option. > > > > I think Hiram does too, he just a read a little too fast. His thoughts > > are clear though. > > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Hiram Chirino wrote: > >> All I'm saying is I don't care if IBM puts up > >> http://www.ibm.com/wasce/plugins, I also don't care if you put up a > >> http://virtuas.com/geronimo/plugins site. > >> > >> Now the default link issue is something else. Can we point it by > >> default at some Apache machines by default? I'm sure Aaron would not > >> mind, would you? > > > > That pretty much sums it up for me. Aaron seems to agree. In fact, is > > there anyone out there who doesn't agree? > > > > -David > > > > > > > > >