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From Kevan Miller <>
Subject Re: Request change to RTC Process
Date Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:23:18 GMT

On Jun 3, 2006, at 11:25 AM, Sachin Patel wrote:

> On Jun 3, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>> However, it's unlikely that current Geronimo committers want to be  
>> intimately familiar with some of these Geronimo components --  
>> we've all had our chance to get involved, so far, but have chosen  
>> not to.
> Its very unfortunate that everyone is thinking this way.  After  
> some pondering this morning, this statement really bothers me.   
> These smaller components are extremely important to the success of  
> and future growth of the community.  When people see Geronimo, they  
> don't see the runtime, but the things that reflect its image are  
> things like the product documentation, the website, tooling and the  
> console.  Thus people's focus on only these runtime components will  
> have a negative bearing on the project.  The attitude needs to be  
> for each of us, that we make more of an effort in the future to get  
> involved in these areas.  If that means that we have to put less  
> function in primary components in order to spend time to grow these  
> areas, then so be it.

I don't know that everyone is thinking this way -- it's only my  
observation and I may be wrong. I also don't think this is  
necessarily unfortunate. I'd much rather have people working in areas  
that they are interested in/good at. I think we'd be better off  
attracting new community members, rather than asking existing members  
to refocus their efforts.

I agree with you that many of these components are important and  
vital to Geronimo. I agree that we as a community should strive to  
have a focus on our users. I think we should all be aware of what  
tasks are required of our users and what problems they face. I don't  
think that this means we should all start programming in devtools...

I think the point you are raising is how do we grow and broaden  
community participation especially in select Geronimo components--  
not what is the appropriate Geronimo RTC policy. I think that's a  
separate subject and invite you to start a discussion on this point.


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