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From "Brett Porter" <>
Subject Re: Frustrations of a Release Manager
Date Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:51:59 GMT
Funnily enough, GMail had this to offer at the top of my mail window:

"The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing." - Walt Disney



- Brett

On 15/06/06, Bruce Snyder <> wrote:
> On 6/14/06, Dain Sundstrom <> wrote:
> > I see a lot of whining in this thread an not a lot of coding.  If you
> > ask me, if Jeff, John or anyone in the projects feels that we need an
> > alternative to the javaplugins site, all they have to do is sit down
> > and put together a site.  At that point we have have an open
> > discussion on the default link.  We had a nice open discussion about
> > the default link a while back and concluded it the javaplugins site
> > was fine since there is only one site available, and when this state
> > changes, I expect the default to change.
> >
> > Frankly, I think it is time to separate the talkers from the doers.
> I tend to agree with these sentiments. The poor interactions on the
> project lately have deteriorated far enough. What I really don't
> understand is why so many people have such a knee-jerk reaction to
> occurrences in the project anymore. It's as if everyone must interject
> their opinion into every discussion no matter whether it adds value or
> not. Face it, none of us can be aware of every single thing that is
> being done within Geronimo. It's simply too big to mind every little
> thing and be a part of every single point.
> I also say enough jumping on the bandwagon to bash someone and what
> they didn't do. Let's try to focus on the positives and if there are
> negatives, talk about solutions instead of just bitching about the
> problem because it's just not productive.
> Bruce
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> );'
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