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From John Sisson <jrsis...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: What's the Wiki story?
Date Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:47:42 GMT
IMO, we should only host plugins that are ASF licensed and maintained as 
part of the Geronimo project.  For other plugins we can provide links to 
other sites (with a disclaimer that we don't endorse them etc).

John

Aaron Mulder wrote:
> I gather from what you're saying you don't think the Geronimo project
> should host any plugins?  How do others feel?
>
> Thanks,
>    Aaron
>
> On 6/12/06, Matt Hogstrom <matt@hogstrom.org> wrote:
>> As you say since plugins are not owned by the Geronimo project (ASF), 
>> not released by the Geronimo
>> project and are not under the oversight of the porject perhaps the 
>> best thing to do is to put in an
>> HTML link pointing to www.GeronimoPlugins.com and that way that 
>> project can manage the releases,
>> interdependncies, etc.  I think its a nice clean break.
>>
>> When Geronimo hosts its own plugins then it would make sense for us 
>> to document them here.
>>
>> I don't think we should host documentation as part of the Geronimo 
>> Project that is not under ASF
>> license.
>>
>> The plugin framework is part of Geronimo...the content is not and is 
>> hosted externally.  I think
>> this is the division.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> Aaron Mulder wrote:
>> > On 6/12/06, Hernan Cunico <hcunico@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> As far as I can see, plugins are part of Geronimo and they should be
>> >> in the 1.1 documentation space.
>> >
>> > I diasgree.  Plugins will be versioned separately from Geronimo, and
>> > will not all be developed by the Geronimo team.  What will we do with
>> > the Geronimo 1.1 documentation if Plugin Foo is at version 1.0 when
>> > Geronimo 1.1 ships, but Plugin Foo goes through version 1.1, 1.2, and
>> > 1.3 before Geronimo 1.2 ships?  Will we constantly be updating the
>> > Geronimo 1.1 documentation?  I don't think that makes sense.
>> >
>> > I think there should be a Plugins space with the Plugin Foo
>> > documentation.  In the Geronimo 1.1 documentation we can include a
>> > list of known available plugins with references to their individual
>> > documentation pages, or we can actually repeat some common usage of
>> > popular plugins, but I don't think we should try to capture the
>> > current state of all plugins (and either have it get terribly outdated
>> > or need frequent changes to the "finished" parts of the 1.1
>> > documentation).
>> >
>> >> The plan is, as I proposed several times in earlier emails, to move
>> >> all the content from MoinMoin to
>> >> Confluence. Most of the content in the MoinMoin is outdated or
>> >> duplicated, the docs that are still
>> >> valid should be moved to a section within the new structure in
>> >> confluence. Those topics that don't
>> >> fit either the User's or Developer's guide should go into the 
>> Geronimo
>> >> SandBox space which is
>> >> version independent. This space should hold historical data like the
>> >> logo contest for example.
>> >
>> > OK.  Who's going to do that migration?  Also, I have to say, I don't
>> > think that putting documentation in a different Wiki is going to
>> > automatically keep it up to date.  It's a nice opportunity to clean
>> > up, but I imagine we'll need a regular cleaning process if we don't
>> > want our Wiki to get out of date.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >    Aaron
>> >
>> >> Aaron Mulder wrote:
>> >> > I'd like to add some documentation for specific plugins to a 
>> Wiki.  I
>> >> > don't know if the plan is to migrate pretty much everything to
>> >> > Confluence or only keep our main documentation there and use 
>> MoinMoin
>> >> > for the rest or what.
>> >> >
>> >> > Still, if we're documenting available plugins, that's probably 
>> more or
>> >> > less project documentation, and should go in Confluence anyway.  
>> Could
>> >> > someone with admin access create an Apache Geronimo Plugins space?
>> >> > (The plugins will be on a separate release track from Geronimo so I
>> >> > don't think the plugin docs should necessarily go in the 1.1 docs.)
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >    Aaron
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>


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