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From Jeff Genender <>
Subject Re: Frustrations of a Release Manager
Date Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:41:39 GMT
Comment below...

Bruce Snyder wrote:
> On 6/9/06, Jeff Genender <> wrote:
>> Bruce Snyder wrote:
>> > On 6/9/06, Jeff Genender <> wrote:
>> >
>> >> There is no obligation for you to consult me to take the Directory
>> >> integration, re-package it, and place it on  But
>> >> out of basic respect, opening up the discussion of others on the idea,
>> >> and then yes, as your friend, and colleague, asking me how I felt
>> about
>> >> taking the package and placing it on (which I did write and
>> spend
>> >> my time putting together), probably would have been most appropriate.
>> >> It is kind of demoralizing for me to see the work that I did, end
>> up on
>> >> the geronoimplugins site w/o discussion from a colleague of mine.  I
>> >> hope that makes sense...
>> >
>> > Some code that you wrote and licensed using the Apache License got
>> > reused and you find it demoralizing? This is completely in the letter
>> > and the spirit of the Apace License. How is such reuse demoralizing?
>> > Not only is this legal, it's encouraged. Please help me understand
>> > this sentiment.
>> Bruce,
>> Perhaps I am not being very good at communicating...let me paste what I
>> wrote before, and you can perhaps show me the error of my feelings...
>> "Although nothing in the Apache License prohibits you from doing this,
>> it would have been prudent and shown respect to your peers who put
>> together the example applications and the Directory integration, to have
>> had some discussions about doing this and how they felt about it.  Its
>> more of a ethical and respect issue, IMHO."
>> The words I am trying to convey here are "ethical, respect, and
>> prudent".  Being that we are all friends, I think we can abide by the
>> spirit of the law, rather than the letter.  Would you agree?
> Well I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this
> topic. I don't care if my code is reused, twisted, refactored, deleted
> or otherwise. When I apply the Apache License to my code, I hope that
> others reuse it in some way. I actually do consider this reuse ethical
> and respectful. I take it as the highest complement that someone would
> reuse my code because it means that I saved them the trouble of
> reinventing the wheel.
> I think that it's our interpretations that differ. Are you simply
> looking for a tip of the hat type of thing or something more?

No Bruce, thats not it at all.  Its simply discussing what he was going
to do.  This all comes back to the lack of communication issue.

> Bruce

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