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From Jeff Genender <jgenen...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Frustrations of a Release Manager
Date Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:41:39 GMT
Comment below...

Bruce Snyder wrote:
> On 6/9/06, Jeff Genender <jgenender@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bruce Snyder wrote:
>> > On 6/9/06, Jeff Genender <jgenender@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> There is no obligation for you to consult me to take the Directory
>> >> integration, re-package it, and place it on geronimoplugins.com.  But
>> >> out of basic respect, opening up the discussion of others on the idea,
>> >> and then yes, as your friend, and colleague, asking me how I felt
>> about
>> >> taking the package and placing it on gp.com (which I did write and
>> spend
>> >> my time putting together), probably would have been most appropriate.
>> >> It is kind of demoralizing for me to see the work that I did, end
>> up on
>> >> the geronoimplugins site w/o discussion from a colleague of mine.  I
>> >> hope that makes sense...
>> >
>> > Some code that you wrote and licensed using the Apache License got
>> > reused and you find it demoralizing? This is completely in the letter
>> > and the spirit of the Apace License. How is such reuse demoralizing?
>> > Not only is this legal, it's encouraged. Please help me understand
>> > this sentiment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> Perhaps I am not being very good at communicating...let me paste what I
>> wrote before, and you can perhaps show me the error of my feelings...
>>
>> "Although nothing in the Apache License prohibits you from doing this,
>> it would have been prudent and shown respect to your peers who put
>> together the example applications and the Directory integration, to have
>> had some discussions about doing this and how they felt about it.  Its
>> more of a ethical and respect issue, IMHO."
>>
>> The words I am trying to convey here are "ethical, respect, and
>> prudent".  Being that we are all friends, I think we can abide by the
>> spirit of the law, rather than the letter.  Would you agree?
> 
> Well I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this
> topic. I don't care if my code is reused, twisted, refactored, deleted
> or otherwise. When I apply the Apache License to my code, I hope that
> others reuse it in some way. I actually do consider this reuse ethical
> and respectful. I take it as the highest complement that someone would
> reuse my code because it means that I saved them the trouble of
> reinventing the wheel.
> 
> I think that it's our interpretations that differ. Are you simply
> looking for a tip of the hat type of thing or something more?
> 

No Bruce, thats not it at all.  Its simply discussing what he was going
to do.  This all comes back to the lack of communication issue.

> Bruce

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