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From Dain Sundstrom <>
Subject Re: Frustrations of a Release Manager
Date Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:15:33 GMT
I see a lot of whining in this thread an not a lot of coding.  If you  
ask me, if Jeff, John or anyone in the projects feels that we need an  
alternative to the javaplugins site, all they have to do is sit down  
and put together a site.  At that point we have have an open  
discussion on the default link.  We had a nice open discussion about  
the default link a while back and concluded it the javaplugins site  
was fine since there is only one site available, and when this state  
changes, I expect the default to change.

Frankly, I think it is time to separate the talkers from the doers.


On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:

> Hiram Chirino wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>> All I'm saying is I don't care if IBM puts up
>>, I also don't care if you put up a
>> site.
>> Now the default link issue is something else.  Can we point it by
>> default at some Apache machines by default?  I'm sure Aaron would not
>> mind, would you?
>> We do things like this all the time.  Our maven builds are TOTALLY
>> dependent on non asf hardware.  If ibiblio or codehaus go down, I
>> think we would have some serious issues trying to build geronino and
>> friends.  And I may be wrong but I think Aaron's site was similar in
>> that it was just providing free hosting for artifacts.  Or an I  
>> wrong?
> That is a great question.  If Aaron's intention was to make an ibiblio
> of sorts, this could have been discussed and it may have passed  
> muster.
>  The key missing component was the discussion ;-)
> I am surely interested in intent...the goals...the barriers to  
> entry, or
> lack thereof regarding this site.
> Thanks,
> Jeff

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