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From "Dave Colasurdo (JIRA)" <>
Subject [jira] Commented: (GERONIMO-1900) Sample app links on welcome app are broken by default
Date Tue, 02 May 2006 18:00:46 GMT
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Dave Colasurdo commented on GERONIMO-1900:

I still have a general uneasy feeling about this overall approach for the default examples.

Prasad has done a good job given the current requirements/assumptions/restrictions of this
JIRA.  However, I question the assumptions.  

The flow is currently:

1) User hits the welcome page and selects "servlets-examples"
2) The "would you like to install examples" page is presented
3) User selects "yes" and is brought to the admin console logon page
4) After logging on, the plugins page is displayed
5) User selects the plugin server and chooses "search"
6) User is presented with list of plugins (apachds, various examples, ldap-realm)
7) User selects "servlets-examples" for the appropriate web container
8)  Servlets-examples is magically installed along with any dependencies
9) User is presented with panel to "start servlets-examples"
10) User selects "start" and is returned to the plugins menu

The major problems I have with this approach is: 

a) The user that is trying to run a few simple examples is tossed into the middle of the admin
b) First time users should be gently introduced to the console via the front welcome page
c) Users will be exposed to many other plugins (the list is growing) that are useful but not
particulary pertinent to the task of installing examples 
c) The user is left stranded in the plugins page of the admin console without any path back
to the original thing they wanted to do (i.e. run the samples)..  They either have to retype
the original url or hit the back button several times..    

Any chance of either pre-installing the samples (like G1.0) or installing the samples with
one click (perhaps cmdline plugin under the covers) and automatically redirecting the user
to the samples with minimal user intervention?

Are we trying to showcase the plugin technology user interface or are we trying to provide
a mechanism to quickly let the user run the samples?
Perhaps there should be a separate "plugins" link from the welcome page to showcase  the plugin


> Sample app links on welcome app are broken by default
> -----------------------------------------------------
>          Key: GERONIMO-1900
>          URL:
>      Project: Geronimo
>         Type: Bug
>     Security: public(Regular issues) 
>   Components: usability, sample apps
>     Versions: 1.1
>     Reporter: Aaron Mulder
>     Assignee: Aaron Mulder
>     Priority: Blocker
>      Fix For: 1.1
>  Attachments: welcome-2.patch, welcome-3.patch, welcome.patch
> It would be nice to take users to a page that would prompt them to install the sample
if they click a link to it and it's not present. However, automating this would require us
to be able to construct a link into a portlet, which does not seem easy. 
> For now, the welcome app can include pages at the locations where the sample apps will
be bound, with text to the effect of: 
> This sample has not yet been installed. To install it, visit the (URL)console(/URL) and
select the Plugins page, click the Search for Plugins button, and select the (NAME HERE) sample
to install. Then visit this same URL again to view the (NAME HERE) example.

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