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From Matt Hogstrom <>
Subject Re: org.apache.geronimo.gbean.NoProxy=true
Date Sun, 19 Mar 2006 13:44:23 GMT
+1...the debugging thing has been a problem.  If for no other reason this is the 
right thing to do.  However, there will be users who care less about isolation 
and more about memory and speed.  This gives them the choice to run exposed to 
get what they want.


Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> On Mar 18, 2006, at 5:18 AM, John Sisson wrote:
>> Dain Sundstrom wrote:
>>> Forgot to mention, I added an experimental flag to 1.1 which will  
>>> turn off proxying in GBean references.  This means that the  injected 
>>> reference will be the actual service instance and not a  proxy to the 
>>> service.  My guess is this will break a few services  that use 
>>> ProxyManager.getProxyTarget(Objcet), since the reference  won't be a 
>>> proxy.  All of these uses will have be rewritten to not  assume a 
>>> proxy if we want to keep use this flag.
>>> To turn it on, you simply set the system property  
>>> org.apache.geronimo.gbean.NoProxy=true. This is property is picked  
>>> up by a static block in the AbstractGBeanReference class, so the  
>>> property will apply for the life of the kernel class loader  
>>> (normally the life of the vm).
>>> -dain
>> What was the reason for this experiment?
> I'd like to completely remove proxying between gbeans in the future,  
> but I think it would lots break stuff to just flip it over right  now.  
> Proxying between GBeans is problematic because it changes the  expected 
> programming model of component writers.  When you are giving  out 
> proxies instead of the instance, the user can no longer use ==  for 
> comparison, and the since proxies are so much slower, the  expected 
> overhead of a call is much higher.  Both of these require  require 
> changes to the component for it to run in geronimo, and if we  want to 
> have the largest component base, we're going to have to change.
> Besides all of that, it is really a PITA to debug geronimo since you  
> have to step through all of those proxies, for really no reason.
> -dain

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