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From Jeff Genender <>
Subject Re: Sun copyrights and our rights to include certain files in the repo
Date Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:09:42 GMT
Bill Stoddard did us a favor and brought it to legal (Thanks Bill S.).

We'll see what they come up with.


Bill Dudney wrote:
> Hi all,
> This can't be the first time this has ever come up can it? Many of the
> xsd and dtd's that are  in G for J2EE 1.4  were copied from Tomcat 5.x
> so they had to have gotten this straightened out, right? ;-)
> I'd be happy to get the conversation going with legal, but its probably
> better that it come from a G committer.
> Thoughts?
> Bill Dudney
> MyFaces -
> On Mar 9, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>> Here is what it says in the DTD:
>> "This document and the product to which it pertains are distributed
>> under licenses restricting their use, copying, distribution, and
>> decompilation.  This document may be reproduced and distributed but may
>> not be changed without prior written authorization of Sun and its
>> licensors, if any."
>> So, from this blurb, it would appear we can include the DTDs and XSDs,
>> but we *cannot* change it.  Would this be a correct assessment?
>> Jeff
>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>> Exactly the right question - the copyright isn't the issue, but the
>>> license is.
>>> Where did these schemas come from, and what are the listed terms?
>>> geir
>>> Bill Stoddard wrote:
>>>> Jacek Laskowski wrote:
>>>>> 2006/3/9, Bill Stoddard <>:
>>>>>> Don't change the copyright statements. The only time it is
>>>>>> acceptable to change copyright statements is when
>>>>>> the copyright holder has assigned copyright ownership to the ASF.
>>>>> Has it been assigned? If not, my understanding is that we're not
>>>>> allowed to store them in the repo, either.
>>>> That's the wrong question. ASF repositories contain lots of code for
>>>> which the ASF is not the copyright owner. Whether we are allowed to
>>>> store code in our repositories depends on the license terms and
>>>> conditions issued by the copyright holder.  What are the T&C's for
>>>> this code? Do we know?
>>>> Bill

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