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From Dain Sundstrom <>
Subject Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator
Date Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:49:45 GMT

I couldn't have said it better myself.


On Mar 15, 2006, at 4:27 PM, David Blevins wrote:

> If you ask me what my opinion on OpenEJB's future or James' opinion  
> on ActiveMQ's future, we'll both probably tell you TLP is a good  
> goal eventually.
> We've more or less been running as TLPs in relation to Geronimo for  
> the past two plus years already, just at Codehaus.  We've seen how  
> that plays out and we'd like to try a much more unified front for a  
> while and see what shakes out.  We're all ready for a change in the  
> status-quo.
> The Geronimo world is awkward and unbalanced.  We have too tight  
> integration with OpenEJB such that the standalone version of that  
> completely disappeared.  We have too little integration with  
> ActiveMQ such that the things you can do with standalone ActiveMQ  
> you can't do with the Geronimo ActiveMQ.  We have parts of Geronimo  
> which could very well become separately reusable components, like  
> the transaction manager or the XBean code.  We're aren't  
> successfully leveraging each other's communities to the fullest.   
> All in all, we don't make decisions together and lean on each other  
> as much as we could.
> I'd really like to see all our projects rolled up, balanced out,  
> then split up again along possibly different lines with potentially  
> more standalone pieces than we see now.
> TLP is a good goal, but I really see value in the journey.
> -David

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