Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 97730 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2006 16:26:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 14 Feb 2006 16:26:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 75443 invoked by uid 500); 14 Feb 2006 16:26:39 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 75254 invoked by uid 500); 14 Feb 2006 16:26:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 75242 invoked by uid 99); 14 Feb 2006 16:26:38 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:26:38 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: 64.74.244.71 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of geir@pobox.com) Received: from [64.74.244.71] (HELO chi.mobile-health-diary.com) (64.74.244.71) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:26:37 -0800 Received: (qmail 8438 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2006 16:26:15 -0000 Received: from ool-43560634.dyn.optonline.net (HELO ?192.168.2.4?) (geir@67.86.6.52) by b014.internal.mobile-health-diary.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2006 16:26:15 -0000 Message-ID: <43F20483.1000901@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:25:39 -0500 From: Geir Magnusson Jr Reply-To: geir@pobox.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Flood CC: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: Ode Proposal References: <43F1FD47.9090005@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N There is a chicken-egg problem here - I'm afraid that would make some people unable to look at it. I can understand not wanting to go through the pain of changing namespace until needed, but can it be made available under the Apache License (or another open source license of your choosing) for evaluation purposes? While you ponder that, can the evaluation license under which the software is currently being offered be placed somewhere so we at least know the terms before downloading? geir Bill Flood wrote: > The source can be found here: ftp://ftp.sybase.com/pub/incoming/wcss/bpe/ > > If the community goes forward with the project, in one form or another, we > are prepared to immediately change the license to the Apache form and modify > the package names spaces as appropriate. > > thanks > > > On 2/14/06, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> Wasn't it offered already to ServiceMix? >> >> I mean, people already voted on accepting the code, so I assume it's >> available somewhere... >> >> geir >> >> >> ian.d.stewart@jpmchase.com wrote: >>> Great! >>> >>> I'm assuming the source won't be available for review unless/until Ode >> is >>> accepted as an incubator poddling? >>> >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> It's better to be hated for who you are >>> than loved for who you are not >>> >>> Ian D. Stewart >>> Appl Dev Analyst-Advisory, DCS Automation >>> JPMorganChase Global Technology Infrastructure >>> Phone: (614) 244-2564 >>> Pager: (888) 260-0078 >>> >>> >>> >>> James Strachan >>> > dev@geronimo.apache.org >>> mail.com> cc: >> general@incubator.apache.org, servicemix-dev@geronimo.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Ode >> Proposal >>> 02/14/2006 10:10 >>> AM >>> Please respond to >>> dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 14 Feb 2006, at 15:03, ian.d.stewart@jpmchase.com wrote: >>>> Allan, >>>> >>>> This proposal appears to be gear towards the web services/SOA >>>> community. >>>> Is support for orchestration of non-WS business processes >>>> considered out of >>>> scope for Ode? >>> No - the code should be reusable for most orchestration needs; even >>> in cases where there are no pointy brackets involved :). >>> >>> James >>> ------- >>> http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >