geronimo-dev mailing list archives

Site index · List index
Message view « Date » · « Thread »
Top « Date » · « Thread »
From David Blevins <>
Subject Re: Why Confluence cannot not be used as a wiki, and how it might be fixed
Date Fri, 10 Feb 2006 03:32:19 GMT

On Feb 9, 2006, at 3:28 PM, John Sisson wrote:

> Hiram Chirino wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I was just looking into these issues in regard to the activemq and  
>> servicemix sites.  I really do like confluence a ton and would  
>> eventually like to see be part of the ASF infrastructure.
>> What I would like is to just export the confluence content to a  
>> static site.  This would allow us to also enhance/style/aggregate  
>> the content during the export so that nice looking project  
>> websites are the results.
> Can exporting to a static site be done today, or do tools need to  
> be written?
> Even if we do this to overcome the Confluence performance concerns  
> won't that mean we still need to retain a Wiki for users to use  
> (hopefully without duplicated content) and therefore still have  
> Moin Moin running for Geronimo (until Confluence performance  
> concerns are addressed)?

You really need to get on infra@, there is some great info in the  
discussions there.  Likewise any insights on this list do nothing for  
the conversations there.

On Feb 5, 2006, at 2:27 PM, Jeff Turner wrote:
> Here's how I see things going forward..
> 1) Towards Confluence as a direct MoinMoin alternative
> Infrastructure@ want some decent benchmarks demonstrating that  
> Confluence
> can survive sustained heavy load (ala MoinMoin) and/or spikes  
> (slashdot).
> Noel rightly says caching is essential. Briefly experimenting with  
> 'ab -c
> 100 -n 1000' suggests that Confluence's internal caching may be  
> enough.
> I'll ask the Confluence team if they can produce some benchmarks.
> 2) Confluence as doc staging/development environment
> There are various ways to suck content from Confluence to a live site:
>  - Maven has Doxia in development.
>  - Codehaus have a Perl script (Confluenza) which sucks down  
> content via
>    XML-RPC to build their website.
>  - Pier is working on a Confluence plugin that saves static HTML.
>  - Anyone can rig up a script using Confluence's XML-RPC/SOAP API.
> Confluence does not have to be running on ASF hardware for its use  
> as a
> doc staging environment. Some projects might use the Codehaus  
> Confluence,
> some use It would be
> nice if the ASF had an internal Confluence installation for doc  
> staging,
> and that's what I proposed Atlassian would sponsor a box (partly) for.


View raw message