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From Geir Magnusson Jr <>
Subject Re: [vote] XBean donation
Date Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:09:11 GMT

Aaron Mulder wrote:
> How can XBean be out of scope but modules/kernel is not? 

If we're going to switch Geronimo over to XBean, then yes, it's in 
scope.  But the answers to my question never said that.  It was 
"ServiceMix and Jetty depends on it" or whatever.

> XBean is a
> better that, including solving a number of problems that we're
> currently facing (such as, say, serialized objects).  I'm eager to
> start integrating the code.


Essentially I asked "What are we going to do w/ XBean in Geronimo?"

That was the answer I was looking for - thanks for just saying it 
plainly and clearly.



> Aaron
> On 2/14/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <> wrote:
>> Just to tie this up so it won't be left hanging - since Dain has already
>> started moving forward with the ip document in incubator and declared
>> his intention to commit the code tomorrow ...
>> My point was that this should have been presented before the vote on the
>> dev list ("So here's why I want to bring XBean to Geronimo and why it's
>> appropriate for Geronimo"), rather than it be assumed that everyone is
>> familiar with whatever off-list or historical conversations have taken
>> place around this.
>> I'm not against this - I was the one trying to get Dain to bring it back
>> to Geronimo last summer when he first took it to Codehaus - but I think
>> that the motivations for bringing in  code that is out of main scope of
>> the project deserves some illumination.
>> geir
>> James Strachan wrote:
>>> On 1 Feb 2006, at 15:53, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>>> I asked a while ago and I think my question was never answered -
>>>> why bring XBean into Geronimo?
>>> ActiveMQ, Jetty, OpenEJB, ServiceMix are all using it as an optional
>>> lightweight kernel for efficient and concise configuration and
>>> deployment in Spring-ish ways. It is a very useful core piece of technology
>>> and quite a lot of us are pretty excited to work with it in Geronimo
>>> James
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